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Old 06-26-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Wouldn't it be truly ironic if the defense tries to explain the inconsistenies/contraditions by blaming them on gz's use of Adderall and Temazepam.

The witnesses so far haven't added much in terms of the actual fight or screaming, but as you've been mentioning, location, location, location.
The first witness up this morning didn't add much in terms of who was screaming in your opinion???

 
Old 06-26-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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Do you bill by the hour?
Actually yes I do. That's why the lawyers are not worried about boring anyone with their disorganization today. It can also stop momentum by running the clock out.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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I think the witnesses have added a lot.

One said the boy was the one crying out. She was there, so she had a much clearer perception than listening to a recorded 911 call.

The other, the Asian woman, said that Zimmerman was on top of Trayvon.
For some posters since those witnesses contradict Mr. Zimmerman's story, they don't count.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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Actually yes I do. That's why the lawyers are not worried about boring anyone with their disorganization today. It can also stop momentum by running the clock out.
Stopping momentum, yes. However, assistant state attorneys are paid a salary by the State regardless of how many hours they work. They do not make more money if they take longer. Of course, they may get raises if they WIN. Who knows?
 
Old 06-26-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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I think the witnesses have added a lot.

One said the boy was the one crying out. She was there, so she had a much clearer perception than listening to a recorded 911 call.

The other, the Asian woman, said that Zimmerman was on top of Trayvon.
I don't put much credence in ID's based on pics seen later of the really young tm or the 'boyish' yelp from people who've never heard their voices. Ridiculous, but I expect you to swallow all testimony against gz.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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Wouldn't it be truly ironic if the defense tries to explain the inconsistenies/contraditions by blaming them on gz's use of Adderall and Temazepam.
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The witnesses so far haven't added much in terms of the actual fight or screaming, but as you've been mentioning, location, location, location.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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I don't put much credence in ID's based on pics seen later of the really young tm or the 'boyish' yelp from people who've never heard their voices. Ridiculous, but I expect you to swallow all testimony against gz.

Come on. You're smarter than this ^^^. And you know that the defense was not very effective in cross examination of the first witness.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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The first witness up this morning didn't add much in terms of who was screaming in your opinion???
Nope. How the heck can anyone rely on testimony based on ID'ing a voice never heard before. She later knew the victim was a 'boy,' voila, the 'boy' yelled. She didn't even see who screamed.

For someone who repeatedly points out the fallibility of EYEwitnesses, you're being awfully accepting of a panicked, distraugh EARwitness, who also heard 3 pops.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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Maybe at one point Zimmerman was fearful, but once he was on top of Martin with his gun pressed into Martin's chest saying "you're going to die tonight", it was Martin who feared for his life.

That's when all the screaming started.
and where are you fabricating this from

it was the punk martin who was ontop
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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and where are you fabricating this from

it was the punk martin who was ontop
And you know this, because you were there? The witness who just testified said Zimmerman was on top.
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