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A lot of Mr. Zimmerman supporters are not paying attention. They aren't looking at the evidence. Mr. Zimmerman said, Mr. Martin approached and punched him after a short comment. People heard voices people saw movement. The story that the witnesses are telling doesn't match Mr. Zimmerman's story.
Mr. ZImmerman said, Mr. Martin approached him said a short statement and then attacked him, but that is not what the witnesses are saying they heard. This is not where Mr. Zimmerman was located. If one is attempting to be objective this gives pause to Mr. Zimmerman's story. Again, his story doesn't match anything really.
No, the jury must evaluate evidence that the STATE PROVED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT IT WASN'T SELF DEFENSE. They can't just decide it on their own without the state proving it.
OMG!! Did you really make that post? What world do you live in where you think we don't understand trial procedure and what the burden of proof means? When the jury returns a verdict of guilty, that means that the jury determined that the State proved (via the evidence they presented) beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman did not kill Martin in self defense.
No, the jury must evaluate evidence that the STATE PROVED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT IT WASN'T SELF DEFENSE. They can't just decide it on their own without the state proving it.
I don't know about that. I was just on a jury and the case was conspiracy to commit murder. There was not a whole lot of prosecution evidence, and practically none for the defense.
One of the judge's instructions to the jury was to use our life experiences and common sense (what would a reasonable person infer from the evidence) to connect the few dots and reach a verdict.
Pretty much all she did was speculate. And assume. She was a sympathetic witness because of all the self-perceived drama. It's impossible to tell what the jury might think of her. Having been a juror multiple times, when she said the person with the higher voice was dead, I would discount anything else she might say. Of course at this point, the jury might not know the FBI was unable to identify the voices. The defense needs to bring that in before the jury subliminally fixates on that statement.
Dale, since YOU bring up the topic of YOUR experience as a juror and having served multiple times, and then relating your experience as a juror to this jury in this trial, let me just say that serving on a jury does not provide one with extensive knowledge or training regarding the law or court procedure, nor does it mean that any of the jurors on this trial jury would think like you do.
AGAIN, the defense CANNOT bring up anything found by the FBI because while questioning this witness; the Defense have not previously made a foundation for that information. You cannot introduce any "evidence" into the trial with having provided a foundation for that information/evidence, and in order to lay that foundation the Defense would have to call someone from the FBI as a witness, and that person would have to testify as to the testing and what they found regarding whose voice was screaming on the tape. Of course the Judge has already ruled that voice analysis "experts" will not be allowed, that means the FBI cannot testify regarding their voice analysis of the tape. Catch up on those Court rulings.
Quite an organized group we have today. Can you tell they bill by the hour?
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you have to be objective to do that tho.
