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Everything that led up to the incident means nothing.... the law is clear on this here in Florida. IF GZ was truly in fear for his life and believed he may be killed, or have great bodily injury, then he is justified in using leathal force. The only thing standing in the way of this self defense claim is IF GZ was the first to put his hands on TM. If he started the PHYSICAL confrontation then he cannot claim self defense.
Everything that led up to the incident means nothing.... the law is clear on this here in Florida. IF GZ was truly in fear for his life and believed he may be killed, or have great bodily injury, then he is justified in using leathal force. The only thing standing in the way of this self defense claim is IF GZ was the first to put his hands on TM. If he started the PHYSICAL confrontation then he cannot claim self defense.
I don't know about that. I was just on a jury and the case was conspiracy to commit murder. There was not a whole lot of prosecution evidence, and practically none for the defense.
One of the judge's instructions to the jury was to use our life experiences and common sense (what would a reasonable person infer from the evidence) to connect the few dots and reach a verdict.
You don't know about that???? LMAO!
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Everything that led up to the incident means nothing.... the law is clear on this here in Florida. IF GZ was truly in fear for his life and believed he may be killed, or have great bodily injury, then he is justified in using leathal force. The only thing standing in the way of this self defense claim is IF GZ was the first to put his hands on TM. If he started the PHYSICAL confrontation then he cannot claim self defense.
What is clear about this is that Zimmerman's credibility is CRITICAL in this case because in order to believe he was in fear for his life, as he claims, you have to believe that Zimmerman is being truthful. That's the point. Can you BELIEVE Zimmerman when he says he was in fear for his life, or have you been convinced that Zimmerman is lying......not honest....about what happened that night, which includes the events that led up to the shooting, as well as being in a position to be in fear for his life.
Here in Florida you cannot claim self defense if you are in the middle of comitting a crime. If he assaulted
TM then he will not be able to claim self defense. However, if it is not proven that he assaulted TM then his claim of self defense is legitimate as long as he can convince the jury that he was in fear for his life.
I believe he will walk.
What is clear about this is that Zimmerman's credibility is CRITICAL in this case because in order to believe he was in fear for his life, as he claims, you have to believe that Zimmerman is being truthful. That's the point. Can you BELIEVE Zimmerman when he says he was in fear for his life, or have you been convinced that Zimmerman is lying......not honest....about what happened that night, which includes the events that led up to the shooting, as well as being in a position to be in fear for his life.
Maybe at one point Zimmerman was fearful, but once he was on top of Martin with his gun pressed into Martin's chest saying "you're going to die tonight", it was Martin who feared for his life.
That's when all the screaming started.
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Maybe at one point Zimmerman was fearful, but once he was on top of Marten with his gun pressed into Martin's chest saying "you're going to die tonight", it was Martin who feared for his life.
That's when all the screaming started.
GZ wouldn't let tm scream for that long before shooting him. Maybe one boyish yelp, then boom.
What is clear about this is that Zimmerman's credibility is CRITICAL in this case because in order to believe he was in fear for his life, as he claims, you have to believe that Zimmerman is being truthful. That's the point. Can you BELIEVE Zimmerman when he says he was in fear for his life, or have you been convinced that Zimmerman is lying......not honest....about what happened that night, which includes the events that led up to the shooting, as well as being in a position to be in fear for his life.
Exactly, and again, if a person is being objective then the witnesses are contradicting his story of what occurred. He said he was going back to his car and then Mr. Martin appeared out of no where and said a brief comment and punched him, yet witnesses say they heard and saw differently. And from their location it seriously contradicts Mr. Zimmerman's account that he was going back to his vehicle when he suffered a surprise attack.
You don't know about that???? LMAO! Yep, we have a very STUPID populace in this country!
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