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I think they define a feminist as any woman that is better educated, makes more money than they do and/or won't have sex with them.
Nah. Education, income, and whether or not she'll sleep with me has nothing to do with it. Not to mention your definition assumes all feminists are women, when some of the most aggressive feminists are men.
A feminist is generally someone who thinks women are disadvantaged and/or oppressed. For instance if you think a "patriarchy" exists, then you'd qualify under this definition.
No reasonable man wants to invite these neuroses into his life where he's labeled an oppressor.
Keeping in mind that a feminist is simply a person (male or female) who believes both sexes are equal and should treated as such
Yeah, sorry, you lost me here.
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Originally Posted by Vic 2.0
These forums are in serious need of education on what the term "feminism" actually means...
No, you are in serious need of education on the difference between a technical and a common definition of a word in its modern context.
It's like defending a conservative with the argument that he can't possibly want to outlaw abortion, he's a conservative, which means he wants things to stay the same.
It's ridiculous.
We know what the OP is referring to, you know what the OP is referring to, and you know that as a group, feminism in the modern world is more than this sole belief, which as another poster pointed out, is shared by most including those who do not call themselves feminists.
I've seen this on here before, it's a weak attempt to throw off a discussion.
We've been letting man-hating "feminazis" don the label for too long. It's got everyone believing the lie that they are in fact feminists. Feminism is not a bad word!
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Originally Posted by SamBarrow
No, you are in serious need of education on the difference between a technical and a common definition of a word in its modern context.
So you are in favor of giving these rabble-rousers whatever empowering label they want you to use in describing them? Wouldn't that hurt our (the true feminists) cause? "Liar" needs to become the common term for people who claim to be feminists yet attack or are unnecessarily hostile towards men specifically. I will not perpetuate the lie you seem to be fighting for.
We've been letting man-hating "feminazis" don the label for too long. It's got everyone believing the lie that they are in fact feminists. Feminism is not a bad word!
Read the rest of my post. Transparent attempt to throw off the discussion.
And yes, feminism is a bad word. Feminism was hijacked a few decades ago, you must have missed the memo.
Feminism in the modern world, by the actions of self identified feminists, no longer corresponds with the technical definition.
Just like the words liberal, conservative, etc.
It's hilarious that some people really think they are slick enough to do one thing, and then insist they are not doing it, because they call themselves something that means something else.
So you are in favor of giving these rabble-rousers whatever empowering label they want you to use in describing them? Wouldn't that hurt our (the true feminists) cause? "Liar" needs to become the common term for people who claim to be feminists yet attack or are unnecessarily hostile towards men specifically. I will not perpetuate the lie you seem to be fighting for.
The rabble rousers stole your word a couple of decades back. Doesn't matter how we feel about it, they've already got it. Or fight them for it. I don't see much of that going on either.
It's like defending a conservative with the argument that he can't possibly want to outlaw abortion, he's a conservative, which means he wants things to stay the same.
It's ridiculous.
We know what the OP is referring to, you know what the OP is referring to, and you know that as a group, feminism in the modern world is more than this sole belief, which as another poster pointed out, is shared by most including those who do not call themselves feminists.
I've seen this on here before, it's a weak attempt to throw off a discussion.
Nonsense. I'm out to disarm anyone who would call themselves a feminist yet clearly does not match either the original objective of feminism or the current definition of the word. When I hear "feminist", I think of someone who would've agreed with the women's rights movement when it began but not necessarily what it has become. That's because feminism and always was the belief that the two sexes should be equal and treated as such, or the movement based on this belief and nothing more!
It's not my fault if you or others have chosen to give so much power to a group of sexists who prefer the label "feminists" to make their cause look noble.
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