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I think it's bad because I believe it's dishonest....I think pedophilia IS a behavioral and environmental problem but this is just a poorly veiled agenda to lend credibility to sexual orientation being genetically expressed. By presenting it as "natural" but needing to be treated because of social norms, it stays consistent with their agenda.
It's a trojan horse.
Do you think that they should keep on hiding, and not seeking help?
I see it more like an AA type of thing. They are getting the support, and being held responsible by their peers, so they tend to stay on track. If you are to ashamed to seek help, and support, you are more likely to act inappropriately.
You people have strayed far away from the original topic. The topic was pedophilia and abnormality. Pedophilia is attraction to children. Okay, how do we define who is a "child?" Below the age of 18 currently, correct? Do you think it is "abnormal" for adult heterosexual men to be attracted, or, more precisely, being capable of being attracted to 17 year-old girls? In my opinion, a healthy majority of heterosexual males in the United States are capable of being attracted to 17 year-old girls. Those would be "children," correct? Are all those men "pedophiles?" If they are, would it not be logical to call those pedophiles "normal?"
Actually, the correct term for men primarily attracted to post-puberty minors is ephebophile. Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children.
Do you think that they should keep on hiding, and not seeking help?
I see it more like an AA type of thing. They are getting the support, and being held responsible by their peers, so they tend to stay on track. If you are to ashamed to seek help, and support, you are more likely to act inappropriately.
Did you even read the OP link ?
It has nothing to do with them seeking help.
They want to redefine the term and encourage society to "tolerate" them.
And getting rid of the convicted child molester database is something they are championing.
From the OP link..this is what that conference is about. See any mention of "help" before they sexually abuse a child ?
Conference aims to normalize pedophilia | The Daily Caller
According to the conference brochure, the event will examine “ways in which minor-attracted persons [pedophiles] can be involved in the DSM 5 revision process” and how the popular perceptions of pedophiles can be reframed to encourage tolerance.
Dr. Berlin is unequivocally opposed to any sexual actions between adults and children. In no way does he advocate pedophilia, but rather he believes in getting appropriate help for people attracted to minors in order to prevent them from acting on their impulses. He argues that a distinction should and must be made between individuals with pedophilia who act on their attractions and those who are attracted to minors but refrain from acting on their predilections.
Did you even read the OP link ?
It has nothing to do with them seeking help.
They want to redefine the term and encourage society to "tolerate" them.
And getting rid of the convicted child molester database is something they are championing.
From the OP link..this is what that conference is about. See any mention of "help" before they sexually abuse a child ?
Conference aims to normalize pedophilia | The Daily Caller
According to the conference brochure, the event will examine “ways in which minor-attracted persons [pedophiles] can be involved in the DSM 5 revision process” and how the popular perceptions of pedophiles can be reframed to encourage tolerance.
Did you even read the link to the group that is actually hosting the event? Or did you just take the spin that was presented in the article?
A pedophile simply has a sexial desire for children, and the argument being made is that having this desire is normal.. Not that the children should be allowed to be taken advantage of.
Then the problem is how to detect such behavior before it becomes destructive towards a child. This is very difficult because it's almost impossible to predict the consequences.
Also I'm not entirely convinced why having a sexual desire towards children is normal.
Then the problem is how to detect such behavior before it becomes destructive towards a child. This is very difficult because it's almost impossible to predict the consequences.
Also I'm not entirely convinced why having a sexual desire towards children is normal.
That is why they want to remove the stigma, so that people will voluntarily seek help.
Of course..the issue becomes WHEN can a child make that decision on their own? I've met 13 year old kids that have their heads wrapped around string theory already. I've met 12 year olds that can manage their funds better than their parents. I have met 10 year olds that can diagnose problems and apply solutions.
You actually CAN prepare children to be adults at much younger ages but we simply value childhood too much as a social norm. There is no "threshold" for when a person becomes mature enough to make a decision. Many are simply way advanced for whatever reason.
The fact is...instead of rethinking all of our norms..we'd rather cherry pick the ones we want to keep and address everything else as genetic or behavioral flaws. Psychology and pseudoscience is a great tool...it allows those who adhere to the dogma to get away with double standards.
And I can't believe you actually advocated eugenics to fix ANY issue.
Do you think that they should keep on hiding, and not seeking help?
I see it more like an AA type of thing. They are getting the support, and being held responsible by their peers, so they tend to stay on track. If you are to ashamed to seek help, and support, you are more likely to act inappropriately.
I don't know? I'm not sure this is an epidemic that needs this kind of focus in the first place. And how do they figure removing stigma from the equation is going to facilitate voluntary rehabilitation? What are they basing this theory on? Drug use is glorified in todays society and it ruins thousands of lives a day but yet many (most?) people need court mandates to take the first step for them.
Anybody with half a brain would look at this objective with a raised brow. It's a loaded agenda, and IMO, a pretty scummy thing to do.
I'm not trying to be antagonist right now in anyway....but this is something that should put homosexuals in a tough spot.
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