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Originally Posted by LuckyGem
Maybe you're misunderstanding my point and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in that regard.
#1. A female child of 13 may be sexually mature biologically to bear a child. So was the way in colonial times when girls married VERY YOUNG and had children because life expectancy was so low and people married very young. Modern society is different.
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People lived to be a 100 years old back then. The problem is mathematical "averages" and the typical person thinks "averages" means "normal person."
Ages: 11, 20, 80 = an average age of: 37
Ages: 2, 20, 80 = an average age of: 34
Ages: 1, 40, 90 = an average age of: 43.7
Colonial time had a lot of deaths of infants and children which pulled their averages down.
And even if people married younger for the reason you gave how does that in anyways make it harmful for a 20 year old today to sleep with a 13 year old?
It's harmful in part due to the concept of "innocence." Like Adam and Eve in the Garden before the fall, that story of innocence. It may or may not be potentially harmful physically, but I'm not very knowledgeable about the developmental stages and maturation of the female vagina. My understanding--perhaps I'm wrong--is that the typical female vagina does not fully mature until about ages 17 or 18.
But anally sodomizing a person can be considered physically harmful too.
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#2. The children you're speaking of who are mentally mature enough to understand "string theory" etc. are not old enough to maintain a family - aside from "sport sex" - the natural product of sexual behavior is procreation. I haven't known too many 13 year olds who are mentally mature enough to navigate the rigors of holding a job in corporate america or any job at all considering the office & social politics and wits it takes to hold down a full time job to support themselves, sustain a family or behave in an adult manner to relate to adults in society. They're more interested in the fun of pre-teen life. Why tie them down to the mental and physical responsibilities of having adult life? With age comes wisdom, adults should not choose children as sexual partners because they're not emotionally or socially developed enough to accept or deal with adult responsibility.
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We need to bear in mind a lot--as in millions--of children even younger than ages 13 work (are not in school or do both) menial jobs in the developing world. The United States in the 1800s used to employ American children in factories working in horrendous conditions (some died of work related diseases before they hit age 20) for 16 and more hours a day.
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#3. Any adult who advocates for having a sexual relationship with a child is not emotionally mature enough to have an interpersonal relationship with someone of their age group. Otherwise why make a child the object of their sexual desire if not for control. Pick on someone more your age.
Childhood should be valued. Innocence should be valued. Somehow that fact is lost on you.
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Jerry Sandusky was a married man. The founder of the Legionaries of Christ order impregnated at least 2 women and at least one of them he carried on a part time "family life" with telling her he worked for the CIA. He had children by these women. And he still would have 12 year old seminary boys he picked, masturbate him.
Just as an a female FBI agent pointed out on a TV show I watched once, that most women and men think most male serial killers are totally without women, is false. Most of them have wives or girlfriends. So too we need to get rid of this ridiculous notion every man (or woman) attracted to young children has no adult relationship in their life.
But I don't think I or Hot Handz necessarily disagree with you that childhood should be valued and that their innocence is a precious thing none of us should be in a rush to see a child lose.
But you might agree with me that there are many small ways in which we increasingly lose our innocence? Parents that send their boys dressed as girls to school do that. Usually they are dressed more akin to street hookers than tomboys.
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