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Old 07-29-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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Her point about a Democrat writing about Reagan is not about knowledge of the topic, but about the biased point of view of the writer towards the subject of the book. Being a hardcore Democratic Party member would put into question the writer's views about Reagan and the things he said and did while in office. While the factual information may be correct, the writer's words used could cast doubt on why something was done and whether it was right or wrong based upon his/her own social/political beliefs. Being a Muslim doesn't mean he doesn't know the subject, but as a muslim, Jesus wasn't the son of God the way Christianity teaches. To Islam, Jesus was a prophet and his followers who have not converted to Islam are infidels who must convert or die. So by what standard did he write the book, Jesus from the Islamic world view or from the Christianity view?
By that logic the writings of oceanographers should be put into question because they live on dry land.

Also, the author is Sufi so his views on the very nature of God are heretical to some other Muslims.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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By her reasoning right wingers can't comment on homosexuality until they try it.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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I find it funny that the Lefties think what this guy wrote is all the truth and it's everyone else that is wrong. When Lefties are confronted with history from David Barton, they call him a quack, but someone with ISLAM as their background is no quack to them. When is everyone going to finally wake up and realize that the Left is completely aligned with Islam in what is called the Red/Green Alliance. They are working together to destroy, Capitalism, Christianity and AMERICA! It's so damn obvious, it's hysterical when they deny it.
The issue at hand is not about the book's accuracy or even content for that matter but the fact that the news anchor never even made the effort to discuss anything other then her obvious bias towards Muslims/Islam by saying that someone of a specific faith cannot write about another faith regardless of whether or not that is their career, academic history etc.

If that was the case then her being a Christian woman means she does not have the ability to interview a Muslim Man since they are different. In other words she should only be allowed to report on news that involves Christian, black females because that is all she knows about.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:00 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I find it funny that the Lefties think what this guy wrote is all the truth and it's everyone else that is wrong. When Lefties are confronted with history from David Barton, they call him a quack, but someone with ISLAM as their background is no quack to them. When is everyone going to finally wake up and realize that the Left is completely aligned with Islam in what is called the Red/Green Alliance. They are working together to destroy, Capitalism, Christianity and AMERICA! It's so damn obvious, it's hysterical when they deny it.
I find it funny that you share the same ignorance as the FOX beauty queen. Then again, I guess you would be in their target demographic.

No one said the guy was right in everything he claimed; the point was that it is ignorant to smear him and ignore his arguments simply because of his personal background (something you clearly can't grasp, either). You don't even know what he actually wrote.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/fir...epresentation/

Seems this guy exaggerated his credential a bit.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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Her point about a Democrat writing about Reagan is not about knowledge of the topic, but about the biased point of view of the writer towards the subject of the book. Being a hardcore Democratic Party member would put into question the writer's views about Reagan and the things he said and did while in office. While the factual information may be correct, the writer's words used could cast doubt on why something was done and whether it was right or wrong based upon his/her own social/political beliefs. Being a Muslim doesn't mean he doesn't know the subject, but as a muslim, Jesus wasn't the son of God the way Christianity teaches. To Islam, Jesus was a prophet and his followers who have not converted to Islam are infidels who must convert or die. So by what standard did he write the book, Jesus from the Islamic world view or from the Christianity view?
Well, as a Muslim, it seems unlikely that he would be writing with a preconceived notion that Jesus is the son of God, but so what?. A Christian writing about Jesus would likely be more inclined to discount evidence that Jesus was not the son of God, yet nobody would (or does) bat an eye at that. Seems like just as much of a problem to me.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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Its his fault. He was not forced to badge flash over and over and over and over. In an interview both parties contribute to the end product. He is the expert...if this is all he can draw out in an interview with a women and an "obvious list of questions" then the only conclusion is that he , came with a list as well.

All they both did is talk AT each other...its his thing or book, not hers. Its his doing to badge flash 'for the argument' and deliberately create an issue as explained far away from the content in the book...iow..he allowed and contributed a railroaded to the content in the book. Thats the book getting publicity, the badge and whatever...obviously not the book itself.
He repeated his credentials because all she did was attack him on the basis of his background. That's all she wanted to discuss, so that's where he defended himself. Notice that she NEVER even asked a question as to what was in the book; the only thing she asked was "isn't it wrong of you to write a book about Jesus if you're a Muslim?"

If you can't see what's wrong with that, then what else can I tell you... you're probably a FOX viewer.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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Fox blew it because the list of questions and paths for reply were not something that she can handle to draw out a good interview.

He seems like a nice guy but can't get interest for the book going as a chief objective, only the credibility and controversy idea. He could of known the ability to steer the convo away from yes..no answers and get some real interest going .
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Haha, you Lefties and FOX haters have been duped by a liar...

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Aslan does have four degrees, as Joe Carter has noted: a 1995 B.A. in religion from Santa Clara University, where he was Phi Beta Kappa and wrote his senior thesis on “The Messianic Secret in the Gospel of Mark”; a 1999 Master of Theological Studies from Harvard; a 2002 Master of Fine Arts in Fiction from the University of Iowa; and a 2009 Ph.D. in sociology from the University of California, Santa Barbara.
None of these degrees is in history, so Aslan’s repeated claims that he has “a Ph.D. in the history of religions” and that he is “a historian” are false. Nor is “professor of religions” what he does “for a living.” He is an associate professor in the Creative Writing program at the University of California, Riverside, where his terminal MFA in fiction from Iowa is his relevant academic credential. It appears he has taught some courses on Islam in the past, and he may do so now, moonlighting from his creative writing duties at Riverside. Aslan has been a busy popular writer, and he is certainly a tireless self-promoter, but he is nowhere known in the academic world as a scholar of the history of religion. And a scholarly historian of early Christianity? Nope.
What about that Ph.D.? As already noted, it was in sociology. I have his dissertation in front of me. It is a 140-page work titled “Global Jihadism as a Transnational Social Movement: A Theoretical Framework.” If Aslan’s Ph.D. is the basis of a claim to scholarly credentials, he could plausibly claim to be an expert on social movements in twentieth-century Islam. He cannot plausibly claim, as he did to Lauren Green, that he is a “historian,” or is a “professor of religions” “for a living.”
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/fir...epresentation/
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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Ahhhh....as I expected, a populous mobilizing expert.
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