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Old 07-31-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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only in the one which is supportive for small business. which usually corresponds to conservative one.

If you want to do nothing and get the government hand out - then a liberal one.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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Hialeah being predominantly white? Have they been there ?

Like Zimmerman - yeah, baby
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Renton, WA
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Your #1 choice would be either Detroit, MI (most Liberal) or Provo, UT (most conservative).

Which would you choose to live in?
Detroit is losing population rapidly and has many abandoned, derelict structures. In the middle of the 20th century, Detroit had a population of nearly 1.9 million people and was the nation's fourth largest city. Now its population is less than 700,000. It is a very ugly city.

Provo is located at the foot of the Wasatch Mountains of Utah. The scenery there is spectacular and there are many excellent outdoor recreational opportunities, such as skiing, hiking, rock climbing, and mountain biking. One cannot do most of those activities in the Detroit area.

From what I know of each city, I would prefer to live in Provo over Detroit.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:39 AM
 
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The Bay Area Center for Voting Research is a nonpartisan think tank based in Berkeley, California.
College towns like Berkeley and Cambridge have modest black populations but remain bastions of upper middle-class, white, intellectual liberalism.

LOL

whom are they willing to convince?
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I would agree with you. What is important is where the jobs are and not the politics. Anyone who even considers politics or who says they wouldn't want to live in a city where so and so lived is not thinking too straight. Checking unemployment rates should be number 1, followed by cost of living and then opportunity to develop skills or better one education. I do think many of the liberals cities also have a high unemployment rate and high cost of living, but politics alone should have nothing to do with where someone chooses to live.
You have to consider the politics because the politics can drive up the COL of the area pretty quick.

"Going Green" and "Going Accessible" is expensive and if you have local politics mandating that then it make home ownership pretty pricey.

Austin city council discussed proposals for all new homes to be built accessible.
That adds a lot to the cost of a home and puts a damper on customization.
That involves ramps, counter height, bathroom configuration, doorway width, etc.
Habitat for Humanity said they would have to cease building in Austin if that passed.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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You don't want to look for a job in Detroit if you don't have a car.
Life spans are dramatically lower too!
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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Your #1 choice would be either Detroit, MI (most Liberal) or Provo, UT (most conservative).

Which would you choose to live in?
Provo, obviously.

Detroit is miserable not only because of it's political leanings.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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The list of liberal cities far outshines the list of conservative ones. With the exception of Huntington Beach, I wouldn't choose to live in any of the conservative cities listed for any controllable reason.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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The list of liberal cities far outshines the list of conservative ones. With the exception of Huntington Beach, I wouldn't choose to live in any of the conservative cities listed for any controllable reason.

quite to the contrary. With an exception of New York, New York I would not want to live in any of the listed liberal cities .Some of them are just dirtholes as Detroit.

And quite a few in a conservative list. about 10 of them.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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Conservative cities generally have the lowest unemployment and cost of living figures, so they would be the best places for someone poor and unemployed to get a decent job and get ahead.

Likewise, Liberal cities generally have the highest unemployment and cost of living, so they're not going to be your best option. If you get a job, it has to pay more to accommodate for the higher COL in big Liberal cities. Here's an extreme example -- the average 1BR apartment in Omaha costs $638/mo, while the average 1BR. in San Francisco is almost $2,700. In addition, the unemployment rate in SF is almost double that of Omaha.

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