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Old 08-02-2013, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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What happened to the narrative that the entire country has changed and wants more government control on firearms and their use?.... Seems to be proving to be a fallacy....

Majority of Americans support 'Stand Your Ground' laws: poll - U.S. News
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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it's obvious.

but the obama government and it's worshiper wingnuts do not.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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I don't support them and I'm not an Obama worshiper wingnut either.

We already have self defense laws (you know the same on Zimmerman used) and I just don't feel there is a need for SYG laws. People are always going to be afraid of someone else and maybe for no particular reason.

I remember once a girl said she thought my sister and I were going to beat her up because we were taking a jog down the street in her direction. With SYG, she could have shot us and been "well within her rights" since she "felt threatened."

Self defense is enough and there is no need for SYG laws.

It is obvious that people who support them are afraid of everyone and everything and fall for the media trap that everyone and everything is out to get you.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Why on Earth are people supporting a law that gives everyday citizens more leeway to use lethal force than we give cops?
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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I'd be willing to bet that a good percentage of those who support it have a poor interpretation of the law and will inevitably rationalize their abuse of SYG when the occasion arises.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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Why on Earth are people supporting a law that gives everyday citizens more leeway to use lethal force than we give cops?
because it is a GOOD LAW
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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because it is a GOOD LAW
Do you really believe that?
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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I don't support them and I'm not an Obama worshiper wingnut either.

We already have self defense laws (you know the same on Zimmerman used) and I just don't feel there is a need for SYG laws. People are always going to be afraid of someone else and maybe for no particular reason.

I remember once a girl said she thought my sister and I were going to beat her up because we were taking a jog down the street in her direction. With SYG, she could have shot us and been "well within her rights" since she "felt threatened."

Self defense is enough and there is no need for SYG laws.

It is obvious that people who support them are afraid of everyone and everything and fall for the media trap that everyone and everything is out to get you.
What is obvious is that most people who don't support them have no idea what they're talking about but vapidly believe everything the media tells them.

No she wouldn't, you clearly don't understand SYG laws. Claiming you "felt threatened" isn't enough, there has to actually be a threat of some kind as well. Jogging down the street would not be considered a threat by any reasonable person, which is the benchmark for all SYG and self defense laws.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Originally Posted by residinghere2007 View Post
I don't support them and I'm not an Obama worshiper wingnut either.

We already have self defense laws (you know the same on Zimmerman used) and I just don't feel there is a need for SYG laws. People are always going to be afraid of someone else and maybe for no particular reason.

I remember once a girl said she thought my sister and I were going to beat her up because we were taking a jog down the street in her direction. With SYG, she could have shot us and been "well within her rights" since she "felt threatened."

Self defense is enough and there is no need for SYG laws.

It is obvious that people who support them are afraid of everyone and everything and fall for the media trap that everyone and everything is out to get you.
Are you just nuts? Do you think your hypothetical situation would have stood up in court with a jury? This girl "felt threatened" but was never confronted with an actual threat? By your standard, it seems a Facebook threat would be reason enough to shoot someone. We all know that would not happen.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:49 AM
 
Location: CA
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Why on Earth are people supporting a law that gives everyday citizens more leeway to use lethal force than we give cops?
Because law enforcement can't get there in time. (99% of the time)

"Everyday citizens" = law-abiding citizens

"Cops" = everyday, law-abiding, citizens with some training
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