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Old 08-13-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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A convicted murderer appealed his sentence because a Spanish-only speaking prospect juror was dismissed from jury duty. He lost the appeal but the NM Supreme Court ruled that lack of English is not a reason to exclude jurors, it violates their constitutional rights, and they must be accommodated with translators.

New Mexico ruling: Non-English speakers can be jurors - El Paso Times
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:44 PM
 
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Don't you have to be a citizen to serve on a jury? How can a citizen not speak English? So much for the claims that Hispanics are assimilating linguistically into our country.

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Old 08-13-2013, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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New Mexico does have it in their state constitution. Written in 1911 and gave protection to Spanish only speakers.
The guy has good lawyers but I don't see that one dismissed juror would have made the difference regarding his conviction of bludgeoning a person to death and then committing armed robbery.

From the OP's link:

"on account of religion, race, language or color, or inability to speak, read or write the English or Spanish languages ..."
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Why not just decide during pre-trial in what language the trial will be conducted, and then select appropriate jurors - with appropriate limitations based on regional language use?

In New Mexico, a choice between English and Spanish would be appropriate.

Louisiana can have French as an option.

Neither can list Somali - that can be offered in Minnesota.

Instead, the New Mexico courts are free to waste taxpayer money on unnecessary translators.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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When Dear Leader goes on trial with he request Bantu Swahili?
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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Why not just decide during pre-trial in what language the trial will be conducted, and then select appropriate jurors - with appropriate limitations based on regional language use?

In New Mexico, a choice between English and Spanish would be appropriate.

Louisiana can have French as an option.

Neither can list Somali - that can be offered in Minnesota.

Instead, the New Mexico courts are free to waste taxpayer money on unnecessary translators.
I agree with your last statement. Yeah, let's just waste more taxpayer money providing translators to anyone who does not speak English or doesn't want to learn it.

As for having a trial in a foreign language I don't agree with that. The judge, jury and everyone else in the courtroom would have to know that language. Geez, this is an English speaking country and the fact that New Mexico has a large number of Hispanics should not have anything to do with it. They can't learn English like everyone else assuming that most of them are citizens of this country? Why do we keep pandering to these non-English speakers? Geez, or get off the pot. Sink or swim.

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Old 08-13-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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Why not just decide during pre-trial in what language the trial will be conducted, and then select appropriate jurors - with appropriate limitations based on regional language use?

In New Mexico, a choice between English and Spanish would be appropriate.

Louisiana can have French as an option.

Neither can list Somali - that can be offered in Minnesota.

Instead, the New Mexico courts are free to waste taxpayer money on unnecessary translators.
Oh cmon that makes waaaaaay too much sense!
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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47% of the people in New Mexico are Hispanic. (2012 census)
They are at a tipping point.
And we all know the majority get to make the rules.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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47% of the people in New Mexico are Hispanic. (2012 census)
They are at a tipping point.
And we all know the majority get to make the rules.
Then why isn't English the required language in the courts right now?
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Deaf and blind folks serve on juries and they require assistance to do so. Speaking a different language shouldn't take one out of the pool.
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