Do you believe that Intelligent Design should be taught in public schools (2013, Louisiana)

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by claudhopper

Aliens, extra-terrestrials, paranormal are all science, shall we teach those too?

None of those subjects are science either, merely speculation and belief. Science is rationally explained and reliably applied form of testable explanations and predictions. Science is not about belief, it is about making inferences based on evidence and observation.

Originally Posted by claudhopper

There is a large gap between apes and humans, so it is still a theory. Teach all theories, including creation and big bang, if you must - or leave them all to institutions of higher learning. Reading, writing and math are what children need to know, and schools are failing at those basics.

You clearly do not understand the meaning of "theory."

A theory is a rational explanation. The validity of a theory rests upon its ability to explain phenomena which can be tested. Theories may be supported, rejected, or modified, based on new evidence and observation. In science, theories are never hunches or guesses and to describe evolution as "just a theory" is both inappropriate and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding.

[Ivorytickler]

Originally Posted by avb3

Actually, no, there's not another theory on gravity. There might be another hypothesis, however is not being tested nor replicated . That is part of the scientific process.

You knew that, didn't you?

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Actually there is. When compared to the other forces (Strong, weak and electromagnetic) gravity is too weak . Hence the theory that it is leaking in from another dimension. This one uses math that is way beyond my comprehension. In my little world, gravity just makes things fall towards the center of earth, lol. I'll leave the theories on how it works to greater minds than mine. I am fascinated by the multidimensional mathematics they're working on with string and brane theories though and how gravity fits with both, but I can hardly follow the articles that are published. It'll be interesting to see if the math really works out to show that gravity is leaking into this dimension from another dimension (which would make gravity much stronger than predicted by Newton's theory as Newton's theory only deals with what is here.)...or if this is a flash in the pan. I'm not going to lose sleep over it but I do find the multidimensional theories fascinating. Don't get me going on mulitverses....those make my head hurt. Universes spawning other universes, branes striking and starting new universes.....There's a reason I'm not a theoretical physicist. I'll tell ya, the universe or multiverse as the case may be gets stranger and stranger every day.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by claudhopper

Aliens, extra-terrestrials, paranormal are all science, shall we teach those too?
There is a large gap between apes and humans, so it is still a theory. Teach all theories, including creation and big bang, if you must - or leave them all to institutions of higher learning. Reading, writing and math are what children need to know, and schools are failing at those basics.

I don't really care about the non-bolded nonsense as based on your posting history you thrive on conspiracies and taking the non mainstream viewpoint.

To the bolded.... Do other developed countries who have better public schools than us skip on teaching evolution? No because they don't have the religious fundamental aspect and overall dumbed down aspect of science.

Some of y'all really come off as insular, only in America you'll find a developed nation so ignorant about science.

[Ceist]

Originally Posted by Hot_Handz

I said "I accept natural selection and genetic drift as fact" those are the two components of evolution...obviously

Intelligent Design opposes natural selection. That's kinda the whole point behind the idea of Intelligent Design.

Here is what you posted earlier in the thread:

Originally Posted by Hot_Handz

Yes, intelligent design means...created by INTELLIGENCE...not created by a God. And it is a THEORY not a stated faith.

Originally Posted by Hot_Handz

The only fact is that evolution SHOULD be challenged. Evolution is still a theory... so is gravity but you can observe gravity in real time. HUGE difference. Evolution is not the smoking gun you (and millions of others) make it out to be.

Now you say that you accept natural selection and genetic drift as fact?

Are your views 'evolving' before our very eyes?

Perhaps you've accidently learnt something by chance when you were looking up what natural selection means and copied and pasted a paragraph about beetles from here? http://salempress.com/store/pdfs/animal_life.pdf

[cupper3]

Originally Posted by claudhopper

Aliens, extra-terrestrials, paranormal are all science, shall we teach those too?
There is a large gap between apes and humans, so it is still a theory. Teach all theories, including creation and big bang, if you must - or leave them all to institutions of higher learning. Reading, writing and math are what children need to know, and schools are failing at those basics.

Do you even understand what it takes for a hypothesis to be accepted as a scientific theory???

Do you have any idea?


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[BigCityDreamer]

Originally Posted by Ivorytickler

The more I study science, the more I think there must be a God. I'll never prove the existence of God any more than you'll prove God doesn't exist. We both believe what we believe without proof so we both believe what we believe based on faith. We differ only in what we choose to put our faith in. You believe you are the product of random chance and your life is meaningless. I believe that you and I getting to the point of having this conversation is by design (think of all the impossible, fantastic things that all had to happen in order for you and I to get to this point in time and have this conversation.).

No scientific analysis has ever disclosed any evidence of a supernatural being at work in the evolution of life on earth.

It would be inappropriate to change scientific knowledge to fit with religious beliefs and teach this in a classroom environment. That's what intelligent design attempts to do.

However, I am certainly for people's freedom to choose whatever they want to believe in when it comes to their private lives.

Well if it is Science one would think that it could be proven.

Just a little nitpick. If ID were science, it would be falsifiable.

[sickofnyc]

Originally Posted by natalie469

No, public schools are for everyone...all faiths and those who don't believe. I know many that send their kids to public school yet also send their kids to Sunday school and other religion classes. They have no problem with that. Different religions believe in different things. So it's best left up to the religious classes of these faiths to teach.

Correct! All we need are tax dollars going to further dumb down students...as if we are not lagging behind other industrialized nations already. It's a good thing that the majority of people agree that it should not be taught in public schools.

[natalie469]

Originally Posted by sickofnyc

Correct! All we need are tax dollars going to further dumb down students...as if we are not lagging behind other industrialized nations already. It's a good thing that the majority of people agree that it should not be taught in public schools.

So you're saying religion dumbs downs students?

[cupper3]

Originally Posted by natalie469

So you're saying religion dumbs downs students?

That would be pretty accurate statement. I mean let's face it, madrasses in Pakistan teach religion do they not? I wonder what great scientific advances come from them?

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