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Old 09-02-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Honey,

please check the most updated datas.
I've checked it twice, I'm still correct and you are still wrong.
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:18 PM
 
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I don't want any guns in civilian society, it is just outdated. With a total ban and strict execution of such law, both armed crimes and defenses would become obsolete...
Suggesting people should get armed just because there are criminals out there, is confusing cause and effect... It is like deliberately setting free zillions of pythons and then telling people to carry huge knives with them as they might get attacked by pythons ^^


When you find a totally "civilized society" let us know.
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I don't want any guns in civilian society, it is just outdated. With a total ban and strict execution of such law, both armed crimes and defenses would become obsolete...
Suggesting people should get armed just because there are criminals out there, is confusing cause and effect... It is like deliberately setting free zillions of pythons and then telling people to carry huge knives with them as they might get attacked by pythons ^^
outdated? in your opinion, tell that to the women who is being raped right now somewhere in America...you are aware the in such a strict laws, the criminals would not obey said laws...right?

No its called being a victor not a victim, how is confusing cause with effect, it understanding the police are not going to protect you, its not their job..

Why would I want a knife to fight of pythons when I could have a pistol.

What nation do you live in?
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:03 AM
 
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I've checked it twice, I'm still correct and you are still wrong.
Therefore I guess you aren't able to read or you need a good pair of glasses.



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Old 09-03-2013, 07:04 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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outdated? in your opinion, tell that to the women who is being raped right now somewhere in America...you are aware the in such a strict laws, the criminals would not obey said laws...right?

No its called being a victor not a victim, how is confusing cause with effect, it understanding the police are not going to protect you, its not their job..

Why would I want a knife to fight of pythons when I could have a pistol.

What nation do you live in?
I know, it has already been mentioned that in the US protecting society is not the job of the police anymore. I find that a bit regrettable...

It doesn't really matter what you kill the pythons with The point is that your constitution and laws allow, almost promote the spread of guns. And as a consequence you have all those armed criminals out there that people feel they need to protect themselves from. I just don't want such an arms race.

I expect not to be robbed, attacked etc., whether I am at home or outside. That expectation, based on my trust in our more or less competent police force and also in a more or less peaceful society, prevents me from feeling like I need to protect myself. And the vast majority of people I know feel that way as well.

It is a totally different approach compared to the US.

Of course there is also some crime here, occasionally there are murders etc. But we do not take them for granted, they are considered shocking exceptions so to speak. Thus we continue to trust it won't happen to us. And usually that is the way it is.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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I just don't want such an arms race.
This sums up everything
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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so why do women carry and own firearms?
The same reason the rest of you do ~ fear.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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I don't want any guns in civilian society, it is just outdated. With a total ban and strict execution of such law, both armed crimes and defenses would become obsolete...
Suggesting people should get armed just because there are criminals out there, is confusing cause and effect... It is like deliberately setting free zillions of pythons and then telling people to carry huge knives with them as they might get attacked by pythons ^^
How do you disarm people who don't obey the law?
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:39 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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How do you disarm people who don't obey the law?
Well, if they don't obey the law, they are criminals. In this case one might think that they are caught, disarmed and sentenced Before they commit crimes, they are just armed potential criminals, which obviously is fine with your constitution and laws, though...
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: MS
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The same reason the rest of you do ~ fear.
Fear is a wasted emotion. There is a slim chance violence will be directed my way and the most efficient means to protect me and my family involves 115 grains of lead and copper traveling at 1140 feet per second out of a 4" barrel.
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