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are you sure bush would have gone into syria? the situation in syria is far different than it was in iraq, one huge difference is that in iraq there was only a cease fire agreement that saddam continually broke. in the case of syria there is no cease fire, and no US involvement in any previous war with syria. sorry but i doubt seriously that bush would have done anything in syria.
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Originally Posted by LexusNexus
The hapless Republicans, currently in a free fall, oppose ANY move by this President. They don't know why they oppose, they just do, since they have nothing of value to add as usual.
By seeking Congressional approval, President Obama once again, kicks their arses. He is forcing them to have a say here, with the entire world watching. This eliminates their complaining. Face it, Pubs, this President is far your superior. It's really quite enjoyable to watch.
Congress could approve military action, and this President then choose NOT to take it. I suspect that his response to Syria has been planned for many months. Other nations may get involved and impose some other non-military action onto Syria, with a military action being only a small component. This President is smart.
Whatever the case, CHANGE is coming to Syria, and it won't be brought about by the Neanderthal methods of Dubya and the Republicans. It will be brought about by a brilliant President of the United States, a black man, in a manner just as effective as his implementation in getting Bin Laden.
more oral spewing from the vomit master. perhaps if you get out of obamas pants and stop playing with his nether regions, and take a look at the man and what he is really doing, you might change your tune.
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Originally Posted by jambo101
Obama wants to make a limited incursion into Syria to take out Syrias Chemical weapons capabilities and not to engage in a protracted war. .
The reasons the conservatives are against this is simply because Its what Obama wants to do.
the problem with limited incursions is that they can morph quickly into protracted wars, and in the case of syria, it would not only morph into a protracted war in that country, it would force other countries to join in the fray, on both sides of the conflict. conservatives are not against the war because obama wants it, we are against the war because there in NO justification for going in by the US, and there is the very real possibility that the conflict would widen out and create a much larger war.
The hapless Republicans, currently in a free fall, oppose ANY move by this President. They don't know why they oppose, they just do, since they have nothing of value to add as usual.
By seeking Congressional approval, President Obama once again, kicks their arses. He is forcing them to have a say here, with the entire world watching. This eliminates their complaining. Face it, Pubs, this President is far your superior. It's really quite enjoyable to watch.
Congress could approve military action, and this President then choose NOT to take it. I suspect that his response to Syria has been planned for many months. Other nations may get involved and impose some other non-military action onto Syria, with a military action being only a small component. This President is smart.
Whatever the case, CHANGE is coming to Syria, and it won't be brought about by the Neanderthal methods of Dubya and the Republicans. It will be brought about by a brilliant President of the United States, a black man, in a manner just as effective as his implementation in getting Bin Laden.
I decided to read through the typical useless cr** to see if you played the usual race card. Sure enough....
Obama wants to make a limited incursion into Syria to take out Syrias Chemical weapons capabilities and not to engage in a protracted war. .
The reasons the conservatives are against this is simply because Its what Obama wants to do.
It can't be because Syria is none of our business or the rest of the world is against military action or quite frankly both sides in this civil war are equally bad.
No it can only be because people don't like Obama.
I am against it because it is none of our business. The rest of the world is against using Military force.
Oh the Arab league wants something done? Good let them do it.
If Obama rescued a kitten from a tree, conservatives would criticize him for it. They'd be like, "doesn't he have more pressing concerns?"
I am not being sarcastic here. So-called Obamacare, for example, is almost a carbon copy of the health care reform plan Republican Richard Nixon floated in the early 1970s, before he was brought down in the Watergate scandal. In other words, Obamacare is basically a conservative Republican plan. Yet, today's conservatives denounce it as "socialist."
If Obama rescued a kitten from a tree, conservatives would criticize him for it. They'd be like, "doesn't he have more pressing concerns?"
I am not being sarcastic here. So-called Obamacare, for example, is almost a carbon copy of the health care reform plan Republican Richard Nixon floated in the early 1970s, before he was brought down in the Watergate scandal. In other words, Obamacare is basically a conservative Republican plan. Yet, today's conservatives denounce it as "socialist."
Did the Republicans of the day pass Nixon's healthcare reform plan? Hmmmm
As for this war in Syria which is none of our business. Maybe some people can understand that although tragic, we have our own problems. Maybe some people understand that every time we meddle with the ME we get screwed for it. maybe some people understand that both sides in this civil war are just about equally vile. Maybe some of us understand that Syria just isn't worth 1 tax dollar.
If Obama rescued a kitten from a tree that would be fine. If he used an airforce para rescue team that he flew in from Texas to Maine I would say what a dumb azz.
Obama is an Idealist and like most Idealists he doesn't care what the cost is or how much waste happens as long as he gets it done his way. How much has Libya cost us? Next up Syria. For people who hate us no matter what we do.
I don't want to hear about Bush and Iraq. Just because one man was an idiot doesn't entitle the next guy to be an idiot.
It's what "dubya" would have done IF there was any evidence Syria attacked the US, but there isn't. Syria isn't in any way a threat to the US, how about we let someone who might be threatened play world policeman for a change.
Why are liberals so eager for another war? Trying to get more soldiers killed so there are fewer people to vote against you in the next election?
Does President Obama have a plan beyond some strikes? Do you know?
Thats really the question I have as well...
Its not that I'm for, or against the attacks, I dont really know enough about the situation to have an opinion one way or another, but just sending bombs in from a navy ship has never really been effective at overthrowing a government. In fact it often times creates sympathy for the nation being bombed and has the alternative effects..
The discussion taking place is going to war with Syria, and you compare it to saving a kilttle kitten from a tree.
I didn't compare rescuing a kitten from a tree to going to war with Syria. I used it to explain the intensely personal nature of conservatives' disdain for Obama.
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