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Old 09-02-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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There's no way 300 Marines are going to storm any beach. We will not let Iran get the upper hand in this conflict. Period.

Historically, whenever you put boots on the ground, you do it with surprise. If we were going to use Marines, they would have already been landing while Obama announced to the world that we were going to take punitive action on Syria. Even on D-Day, June 6th, 1944 the Germans woke up with the invasion on their doorstep. A total surprise.
Obama can take all the time he needs because he knows the Assad Military can do absolutely nothing to stop the destruction of his C&C centers and lines of communications. That's all the Free Syrian Army needs to be successful.
But if you know about the plan to strike at their command center --- there is no element of surprise there which would also be needed. By the time Sept 9 comes, Assad could have decentralized or moved his command center.

And if Obama knows about the need for boots on the ground coming as a surprise, then you probably wouldn't know that that is what's in the plans. So we can't rule out ground forces being planned.

 
Old 09-02-2013, 12:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RogersParkGuy

I am not being sarcastic here. So-called Obamacare, for example, is almost a carbon copy of the health care reform plan Republican Richard Nixon floated in the early 1970s, before he was brought down in the Watergate scandal. In other words, Obamacare is basically a conservative Republican plan. Yet, today's conservatives denounce it as "socialist."


that may be, but you have to understand that nixon, ford, bush41, bush43 were NOT conservatives, they were in fact liberals. and in point of fact, obamas ideals are close to nixons ideals, the only real difference between the two is that obama has the mainstream media in his pocket and nixon didnt. so obamacare is NOT a conservative republican plan, it is a LIBERAL republican plan., and actually it has its roots much further back, closer to the 1900s with teddy roosevelt, FDR, and woodrow wilson, which means that in reality obamacare is a BIPARTISAN PROGRESSIVE plan. nice try but you FAIL.
And if that's the case, why do the Obama worshippers continue to worship him the way they do? Are they now saying they were all wrong about Nixon, Bush, Mccain and the other Republican liberals?

How funny --- now the liberal voters admit they like Nixon because Obama is so similar to him.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 12:29 PM
 
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And if that's the case, why do the Obama worshippers continue to worship him the way they do? Are they now saying they were all wrong about Nixon, Bush, Mccain and the other Republican liberals?

How funny --- now the liberal voters admit they like Nixon because Obama is so similar to him.
actually the obama supporters are so entrenched politically that ANYONE with a R behind their name is automatically a conservative idiot/evil genius/horrible person who wants to control everything/hates the constitution/is a complete nut job/is part of the christian right/ any other nasty thing they can come up with.

on the other hand everyone with a D behind their name is an angelic person who can do now wrong and only wants to keep people safe and secure through big government programs, and they just want the rich to pay a little more to cover the costs of those programs, and that is patriotic to pay more in taxes.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 12:29 PM
 
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It's really about Benghazi. Those responsible are hiding in Syria.
The point here my friends is that if the President tells the cons that those responsible for Benghazi are hiding out in Syria the cons would be all for it. Maybe President Obama should have us launch those missiles on Sept 11 in retribution.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Okay, I'm officially confused.

Here is a left wing group protesting in front of the White House:

"Eighty-two-year-old Jennifer Ellingston, who helped found the left-wing D.C. Statehood Green Party in 1996, told TheDCNF that she was there to protest “the imminent intervention in another country by the empire, the policeman of the world.”

Antiwar activists rally around White House | The Daily Caller

So, the lefties are against Obama action making them pro-Assad. They usually take the side of the "freedom fighters" that are for the people. here is the other side:

'About twenty minutes after the rally’s midday start, a contingent of about 75 pro-intervention protesters, most apparently of Syrian origin, came up alongside the anti-intervention demonstrators. With chants of “Down with Bashar Assad,” “Free Syria” and “Long Live the Revolution,” they sought to drown out the antiwar slogans.' 'We are standing with the Syrian people, with the Syrian children who were killed with the chemical weapons,' said Samir Nasher, a Syrian doctor from Aleppo who has lived in the United States for the last 12 years."

Antiwar activists rally around White House | The Daily Caller

Who is on what side, again? It looks to me like the pro-Obama people are anti-Obama. No wonder he doesn't know what to do.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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And where is Hillary? The one who intends to become the next president? The former Sec of State who really screwed up but never had to answer a single question?

Shouldn't the wanna-be president be speaking up and giving some input? The coward.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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But if you know about the plan to strike at their command center --- there is no element of surprise there which would also be needed. By the time Sept 9 comes, Assad could have decentralized or moved his command center.

And if Obama knows about the need for boots on the ground coming as a surprise, then you probably wouldn't know that that is what's in the plans. So we can't rule out ground forces being planned.
You can't move concrete bunkers and massive transmitters with miles of heavy duty cabling. Also power to these facilities would be hit. It's not that easy to redesign your entire military communications network on the fly. Not like switching cable companies or satellite TV providers..
You can't dig a hole deep enough to keep your equipment and staff safe from our missiles in such a short time. Satellites and drones are keeping an eye and tracking all movement of all Assad military forces, 24/7. That's what we do. That's how we roll.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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actually the obama supporters are so entrenched politically that ANYONE with a R behind their name is automatically a conservative idiot/evil genius/horrible person who wants to control everything/hates the constitution/is a complete nut job/is part of the christian right/ any other nasty thing they can come up with.

on the other hand everyone with a D behind their name is an angelic person who can do now wrong and only wants to keep people safe and secure through big government programs, and they just want the rich to pay a little more to cover the costs of those programs, and that is patriotic to pay more in taxes.
Only in your mind, Only in your mind. Clean up the barf on the way out, would ya?
 
Old 09-02-2013, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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And where is Hillary? The one who intends to become the next president? The former Sec of State who really screwed up but never had to answer a single question?

Shouldn't the wanna-be president be speaking up and giving some input? The coward.
Why should Hillary have any input on the Syrian conflict? She has no official standing in our government on any level. She's just a private citizen. As if you're standing around with breathless anticipation waiting for some pronouncement from Hillary. Give me a break You've already called her a coward for keeping her mouth shut. Anything she said, you'd spin it right into hell.

That's it. I'm outa here. Calling Hillary a coward when all she did today was get out of bed and breathe is the height of idiocy and reduces the discussion into a playground, sand throwing contest. I don't need this and you obviously don't need or want my input.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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Okay, I'm officially confused.

Here is a left wing group protesting in front of the White House:

"Eighty-two-year-old Jennifer Ellingston, who helped found the left-wing D.C. Statehood Green Party in 1996, told TheDCNF that she was there to protest “the imminent intervention in another country by the empire, the policeman of the world.”

Antiwar activists rally around White House | The Daily Caller

So, the lefties are against Obama action making them pro-Assad. They usually take the side of the "freedom fighters" that are for the people. here is the other side:

'About twenty minutes after the rally’s midday start, a contingent of about 75 pro-intervention protesters, most apparently of Syrian origin, came up alongside the anti-intervention demonstrators. With chants of “Down with Bashar Assad,” “Free Syria” and “Long Live the Revolution,” they sought to drown out the antiwar slogans.' 'We are standing with the Syrian people, with the Syrian children who were killed with the chemical weapons,' said Samir Nasher, a Syrian doctor from Aleppo who has lived in the United States for the last 12 years."

Antiwar activists rally around White House | The Daily Caller

Who is on what side, again? It looks to me like the pro-Obama people are anti-Obama. No wonder he doesn't know what to do.
if obama had any backbone, he wouldnt care what the people were saying, he would do what was right in the first place, and in this case what is right is staying out of syria.
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