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We are in a time of war that we ourselves imagined into existence. There is little enough to be proud of in that...
Did I say we should be proud of war??? NO I said we should show our support of the country and our troops. SUPPORT does not have to mean we are proud of this war. I personally think this war was the right thing to do but thats not what we are talking about here. If you find the flag wearing so offensive so be it but it's a ridiculous argument. There are far worse things going on that we could be worried about then politicians and religious folks wearing and waving the flag, there is no reason to turn it in to something it's not just because so many people want to look for a reason to bash Bush etc...
Sorry. It was probably this...Im proud to show my support for this country in a time of war...from your earlier post that confused me.
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If you find the flag wearing so offensive so be it but it's a ridiculous argument. There are far worse things going on that we could be worried about then politicians and religious folks wearing and waving the flag...
Yes, there is sadly a plethora of things that are worse yet, a variety of which are the direct consequence of actions taken by the flag-wavers.
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...there is no reason to turn it in to something it's not just because so many people want to look for a reason to bash Bush etc...
Let's just come to the point re Bush-bashing. If Bush weren't so gloriously deserving of being bashed, many fewer people would be engaging in the practice. It is all what the man has earnestly and honestly brought upon himself. And unable to deflect the more than well-founded bases for these attacks coming from all sides, the defenders of the President and his hodgepodge of atrocious policies are forced into imagining some sort of mental disorder on the part of critics as their only means for explaining it all away. Can there be any more lame response that that?
, the defenders of the President and his hodgepodge of atrocious policies are forced into imagining some sort of mental disorder on the part of critics as their only means for explaining it all away. Can there be any more lame response that that?
The inability of Bush's critics to do more than verbalize their frustrations approaches the pathological at times, though, don't you think? Having absorbed the catechism that the 2006 elections were to be a seminal turning point, and tasting the ashes of being contemptuously outmaneuvered by Chimpy McBushiitler, the nutroots and their aging mentors seem at times to be experiencing a kind of apopletic epiphany of impotence. The only real candidates for these people are Kucinich and Gravel; one plausibly an extraterrestrial imp, the other a near-lunatic. With models like these, the lameness would seem to be on the sinister side, and it appears permanent.
[quote=saganista;2023698]Sorry. It was probably this...Im proud to show my support for this country in a time of war...from your earlier post that confused me.
Yes, there is sadly a plethora of things that are worse yet, a variety of which are the direct consequence of actions taken by the flag-wavers.
a direct consequence of actions taken by flag wavers????? really??? after that comment I can see now that it's pointless to argue with someone like you.
Let's just come to the point re Bush-bashing. If Bush weren't so gloriously deserving of being bashed, many fewer people would be engaging in the practice. It is all what the man has earnestly and honestly brought upon himself. And unable to deflect the more than well-founded bases for these attacks coming from all sides, the defenders of the President and his hodgepodge of atrocious policies are forced into imagining some sort of mental disorder on the part of critics as their only means for explaining it all away. Can there be any more lame response that that?
sorry missed this part. You believe he is deserving for being bashed...i dont..give me a reason he should be bashed so much and please dont use the war in Iraq because we will just go around and around about that and neither of us will change our minds. I dont think Bush is perfect, im not in love with the man or anything but I think he's done a good job and I think right now it's the "cool" thing to jump on the Bush bashing band wagon. and hating Bush is NOT a reason to bash the American flag.
I never implied there was some sort of mental disorder, it's just how liberals think..without logic.. what i think is "lame" is that you make a sweeping statement about those who wave flags to show their support for their troops and country. If there is something wrong with that you are going to need to come up with a better reason.
The inability of Bush's critics to do more than verbalize their frustrations approaches the pathological at times, though, don't you think?
The little boy has been locked up in a box. DeLay and Frist are gone. Rummy and Gonzo with them. Where is all this political capital he is going to spend now? Obstructionism and his little veto pen are all that's left him. His day is filled with being wary of Henry Waxman. More than just verbalizing has gone on.
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Having absorbed the catechism that the 2006 elections were to be a seminal turning point, and tasting the ashes of being contemptuously outmaneuvered by Chimpy McBushiitler, the nutroots and their aging mentors seem at times to be experiencing a kind of apopletic epiphany of impotence.
The Republican Party as you have known it is evaporating before your eyes. You stand as the last drummer, cheering Custer on.
I proudly fly the flag at my home and at my office.
I proudly support our troops, in what I believe are meaningful ways all the time including volunteering my time, and monies, to organizations that help make our troops lives a little easier
I proudly support those troops who have been wounded in combat - again in what I believe are meaningfull ways including transportation, visitations in hospitals and helping their family members
I proudly support our troops who have given the ultimate sacrifice for our great nation by lending moral support to their families and attending funerals of many who have died.
The "Support our troops" thread made reminded me of a fact that is very disturbing in America today. Has anybody noticed that the religious right seem to think they have a monopoly on patriotism, the American flag, and supporting the troops? The line between patriotism and religious expression has been blurred to a point that its hard to describe. Shouldn't everybody, of all faiths and of no faith, religious and secular, be proud to be an American?
funny you should say that, becasue most of the other groups come across as selfish, anti-anything american. so in reality they probably are the most patroitic group out there that still believe in this country while people like you think we are big meanies who should give up everything we have for the rest of the world
I think ALL Americans should band together to take the flag back from the religious right.
take actually being patriotic first....till then leave it there.
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