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Speaking for myself, it's not the conservatism of Alex Jones's website that's problematic. It's the malware that can be picked up there. I won't go to his website, because then I have to spend time cleaning my computer of cookies and malware that have attached themselves to my computer.
so some poor guy doesnt deserve to be treated as kindly as a big company that gave a million bucks to Barak Obama?
Thank you for proving my point.
The employer mandate was bad policy.
- By imposing a tax on employers for hiring people from low- and moderate-income families who would qualify for subsidies in the new health insurance exchanges, it would discourage firms from hiring such individuals and would favor the hiring — for the same jobs — of people who don’t qualify for subsidies (primarily people from families at higher income levels).
- It would provide an incentive for employers to convert full-time workers (i.e., workers employed at least 30 hours per week) to part-time workers.
- It would place significant new administrative burdens and costs on employers.
By tying the penalties to how many full-time workers an employer has, and how many of them qualify for subsidies, the mandate gives employers a reason to have fewer full-time workers, and fewer low-income workers.
The individual mandate is different. Individuals can get subsidies and the system requires that everyone join to form a pool.
NO, dear, he will veto any bills that link the two.
If a clean budget bill passes Congress, he will sign it into law. A clean, whole budget bill. Not pieces of the budget that fund this Tea Party pet, and that Tea Party pet, and are only intended to put more pressure on Congress to link the rest of the budget with healthcare.
Your deluding yourself if you think the Senate, President Obama, or even moderate Republicans want the budget to be linked to amending the ACA.
It's even worse that link is old. The Delaying of Obamacare has been long taken off the table by conservatives.
So what's the point of that poster bringing it up?
conservatives have given up Delaying Obamacare for a year.
They literally have no reason to continue this shutdown except they don't want to lose to the Democrats and President Obama.
At this point the reason the shutdown continues is to get something from Democrats to justify the shutdown.
No, "these" are not. Your just trying to throw a buch of 'talking points' onto an unrelated group.
(and WHAT EXACTLY would any of those beliefs have to do with anything?)
You DO REALISE that there is still a flat earth society right!?!
And regardless... The beauty of a democratic republic is that the minority (whoever they are) is protected.
And your claims of racism are funny considering many of those same people promoted Alan Keyes some time back!
The minority is protected. The minority is ensured a voice. Which doesn't mean the minority gets to dictate terms to the majority.
Boehner needs to let a clean bill be voted on. He doesn't want to because he's struggling to keep the GOP unified, and doesn't want to solidify the split in his party. But the longer he hedges, the worse the shutdown becomes.
On day three of the partial government shutdown, a new CBS News poll reveals that a large majority of Americans disapprove of the shutdown and more are blaming Republicans than President Obama and the Democrats for it.
Fully 72 percent of Americans disapprove of shutting down the federal government over differences on the Affordable Care Act; just 25 percent approve of this action. Republicans are divided: 48 percent approve, while 49 percent disapprove. Most tea party supporters approve of the government shutdown - 57 percent of them do. Disapproval of the shutdown is high among Democrats and independents. This CBS News poll was conducted after the partial government shutdown began on October 1.
Republicans in Congress receive more of the blame for the shutdown: 44 percent of Americans blame them, while 35 percent put more blame on President Obama and the Democrats in Congress. These views are virtually the same as they were last week before the shutdown, when Americans were asked who they would blame if a shutdown occurred.
The thread title is not complete. It is a partial government shutdown. The partial shutdown is solely a political move by King Obama and the Democrats, who are desperate to find an issue to run on during the 2014 midterm elections.
The GOP passed numerous resolutions fully funding the government, including the Affordable Care Act. The Democrats decided to shut down the government because they refused to even agree that Congress shouldn't get special subsidies to pay for the ACA.
The Democrats and Obama are counting on their pawns in the media to bail them out and run interference as usual. No doubt the media will play along dutifully. Nonetheless, the GOP has done absolutely nothing wrong here and I'm very proud of them for sticking to their guns. Already donated for the first time in many years this morning.
Repubs are just being petulant. They've already won on the budget issue, but now are choosing to mire the nation in idiocy.
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Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid said after the White House meeting: Democrats have already agreed to the Republicans’ budget number. ”I don't know why they haven't accepted their own number,” Pelosi said. “We stood on steps to say we're making a firm offer that we will accept the 988 [figure]. Most of us don't like 988.” In other words, you could look at the comments from Boehner/McConnell/Reid/Pelosi as an agreement on this point: The status quo is a win for Republicans and conservatives. Government spending has been cut; deficit is going down; Democrats have agreed to the GOP’s spending number. But here’s the question: Can Boehner and GOP leaders sell that message to the base?
They have called for reconciliation of the House Budget and the Senate Budget since April. Repubs refused many, many times. The shutdown is not about budgets.
I agree. conservatives are on record yelling about conference committees being a back room deal.
I don't think people realize this, the whole reason for the shutdown which was to do something to Obamacare has been taken off the table by conservatives.
There whole reason for the shutdown was Obamacare, conservatives have taken doing anything to Obamacare like Repeal, Defund or Delay off the table, to normal people that would be the time to surrender.
When the reason you fight is lost, normal people quit, but not conservatives.
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Not so!! Repubs have won and are being petulant
