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Old 10-02-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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So the better solution is to continue the impasse? That makes sense.
The better solution would be for Boehner to present the Senate's clean bill to the House, and let the House pass it. I don't blame the tea party delegation for their opinion, or their action. I do blame Boehner for continuing to kowtow to the GOP's tea party faction. It's time for Boehner to put away the hanky and man up.

 
Old 10-02-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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He thinks that he is a dictator?
As we await the Obama statues and bigger than life size posters to cover our streets!!
 
Old 10-02-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Serious question, in your opinion why did they wait 3 years (after the election no less) to implement it?
June 27th, 2012 this legislation was adjudicated in a 5-4 Supreme Court ruling. In a little over 12 months after that, this law was implemented.
 
Old 10-02-2013, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The better solution would be for Boehner to present the Senate's clean bill to the House, and let the House pass it. I don't blame the tea party delegation for their opinion, or their action. I do blame Boehner for continuing to kowtow to the GOP's tea party faction. It's time for Boehner to put away the hanky and man up.
Do you think it would pass the House? I am curious because now that the Senate and its leader has taken the opportunity to malign the Republicans as much as possible (e.g. calling them anarchists, spoiled, etc), it may make even that option be untenable to Republicans that previously would have voted for a clean CR. As was stated upthread, this is about egos and Reid's lack of statemanship could harm any effort to get this impasse cleared away.
 
Old 10-02-2013, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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June 27th, 2012 this legislation was adjudicated in a 5-4 Supreme Court ruling. In a little over 12 months after that, this law was implemented.
Actually, the entire legislation was not being considered in that ruling. Just to be clear.
 
Old 10-02-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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You have that backwards. The House did what the people wanted. The Senate and president are bullying the nation into what it does not want. Where have you been? Listening to CNN? You need to broaden your information scope.
Not sure who you mean by "the people". Fox news, Rush Limbaugh fans? There are PLENTY of people who support the Affordable Care Act. Those count as people, too. You need to broaden your knowledge that a whole country exists outside of your own little bubble.
 
Old 10-02-2013, 09:59 AM
 
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Do you think it would pass the House? I am curious because now that the Senate and its leader has taken the opportunity to malign the Republicans as much as possible (e.g. calling them anarchists, spoiled, etc), it may make even that option be untenable to Republicans that previously would have voted for a clean CR. As was stated upthread, this is about egos and Reid's lack of statemanship could harm any effort to get this impasse cleared away.
Actually, yes, I do. I think the non-Tea Party Republicans combined with the Democrats outnumber the Tea Party Republicans, in the same way that the non-Blue Dog Democrats outnumbered the Blue Dog Democrats in the 90's. While I recognize that Boehner is trying to keep the schism in the GOP from splitting it apart, his efforts are enabling the Tea Party Republicans to hold our government hostage. And that's not acceptable. That's why Americans are so unhappy with Congress. Not because it's too conservative or too liberal, but because it's become dysfunctional. And while I recognize that Boehner has been placed in an impossible position, a fail or fail position, it is what it is. And it's time for him to take a deep breath and take command of the situation.
 
Old 10-02-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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You have that backwards. The House did what the people wanted. The Senate and president are bullying the nation into what it does not want. Where have you been? Listening to CNN? You need to broaden your information scope.
Ahh, so you are claiming that the House is doing what the people want. How convenient, but wrong again.

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A new Quinnipiac University poll released on Tuesday shows voters overwhelmingly oppose Congress shutting down the federal government as a way to stop the 2010 health care law from being implemented, matching other public polling that shows that Democrats enter the shutdown with the upper hand.

The Quinnipiac poll also shows Democrats with a 9-point lead on the 2014 House generic ballot -- a historically wide edge, despite the structural advantages that make a Democratic takeover of the House unlikely.

Overall, the poll shows voters are split on the health care law: 45 percent support it, while 47 percent oppose it. Other polls have shown stronger opposition to the law, however.

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Old 10-02-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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Threatining to shut down the government unless they get their way, period. Now they have followed through. As far as I am concerned, they are criminals and have attacked America.
Oh my, day 2 of the government shutdown and you're still alive. How can that be possible?
 
Old 10-02-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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The House is now trying to pass bills to fund several segments of the government. However, they cannot get 'fast-tracked' as Democrats are voting 'no' in block and a 2/3 majority is needed for fast-tracking. Furthermore, Sen. Reid stated the Senate will not approve for these bills, and Obama said he will veto them.

Looks like both sides are dug in.
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