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Old 12-01-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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Now, answer the question: Before the polio vaccine, what protected 99% of the human population from poliomyelitis?
What do you mean by 99% of the human population was protected?

 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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"When Franklin Roosevelt contracted polio in 1921, at age thirty-nine, . . ."

Maybe FDR was gay.

NMAH | Polio: Franklin D. Roosevelt
What does sexual orientation have to do with contracting or being exposed to polio? Trying to tie some relationship to FDR's sexual orientation based on contracting polio seems a stretch.
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:03 PM
 
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What does sexual orientation have to do with contracting or being exposed to polio? Trying to tie some relationship to FDR's sexual orientation based on contracting polio seems a stretch.
He thinks because the disease is transmitted by the fecal-oral route, that gays are at higher risk. I don't think he really understands "fecal-oral route".
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:04 PM
 
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What do you mean by 99% of the human population was protected?
Never contracted any symptomatic form.

This percentage was probably much higher, maybe 99.9%.
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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He thinks because the disease is transmitted by the fecal-oral route, that gays are at higher risk.
That was what I thought, as well.
However, I have seen no evidence that such activity is reserved exclusively for non-hetero groups.
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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Never contracted any symptomatic form.

This percentage was probably much higher, maybe 99.9%.
Why would you limit your analysis to only symptomatic contractions? The spread of the disease and number of severe cases is directly related to the overall prevalence.
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:19 PM
 
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Childhood disease?

Outbreak of Polio in Adults --- Namibia, 2006
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:23 PM
 
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Why would you limit your analysis to only symptomatic contractions? The spread of the disease and number of severe cases is directly related to the overall prevalence.
A significant portion of human beings carry staph and strep with no pathological symptoms.

I don't, however, think this has been the historical case for polio.
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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History of poliomyelitis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
**Prior to the 20th century polio infections were rarely seen in infants before 6 months of age and most cases occurred in children 6 months to 4 years of age.[16] Young children who contract polio generally suffer only mild symptoms, but as a result they become permanently immune to the disease.[17] In developed countries during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, improvements were being made in community sanitation, including improved sewage disposal and clean water supplies. Better hygiene meant that infants and young children had fewer opportunities to encounter and develop immunity to polio. Exposure to poliovirus was therefore delayed until late childhood or adult life, when it was more likely to take the paralytic form.[16]

In children, paralysis due to polio occurs in 1/1000 cases, while in adults, paralysis occurs in 1/75 cases.[18] By 1950, the peak age incidence of paralytic poliomyelitis in the United States had shifted from infants to children aged 5 to 9 years; about one-third of the cases were reported in persons over 15 years of age.[19] Accordingly, the rate of paralysis and death due to polio infection also increased during this time.[1] In the United States, the 1952 polio epidemic would be the worst outbreak in the nation's history, and is credited with heightening parents’ fears of the disease and focusing public awareness on the need for a vaccine.[20] Of the 57,628 cases reported that year 3,145 died and 21,269 were left with mild to disabling paralysis.[20][21]
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Here's another link with slightly different ages. Please note, an old name for polio is "INFANTILE paralysis".
http://www.infoplease.com/cig/danger...lio-panic.html

More:
http://www.plosin.com/beatbegins/projects/sokol.html

Do note that some children under age 4 did become paralyzed from polio.

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Old 12-01-2013, 06:55 PM
 
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A significant portion of human beings carry staph and strep with no pathological symptoms.

I don't, however, think this has been the historical case for polio.
Seriously, what is your problem with polio vaccination? In the decades before we developed the vaccine, millions of Americans contracted polio every year, paralyzing about 16,000 of them (1952 was the worst year - polio paralyzed 21,000 Americans that year). Due to vaccination, the US has had 0 cases of polio and 0 Americans have been paralyzed by polio since 1979.

Worldwide, before vaccination, 10s (if not 100s) of millions of people were infected with polio each year, paralyzing hundreds of thousands of the them. Last year, the number of polio cases worldwide was 291.

I think it would be great if we eradicated this disease. If we did that, you do realize we could then stop vaccinating children against polio altogether.
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