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Old 01-07-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Dems will oppose because they want all the electoral votes.
It would also mean the north and east parts of California would probably vote in Republican senators, reducing the dems power, so if it's up to the politicians they'll never go for it.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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It's not gonna happen any time soon if ever. It would probably take at least 20 years of wrangling just to get the boundaries of the six "states" set -- and by then, all kinds of unforeseen economic/social/demographic changes could easily make any or all of the proposed new "states" undesirable.

Furthermore, not only does California's government have to agree to it, I think the feds do, too. This six state plan has "balkanization" written all over it, and I think the feds would reject it. Only 1 state has actually been divided up after joining the Union, and that was under the extraordinary circumstances of civil war.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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"Venture capitalist Tim Draper of Silicon Valley has filed paperwork for a November ballot measure that would divide California into six states, calling the Golden State as presently constituted 'too big and bloated.' Mr. Draper’s proposed six states are called, from north to south: Jefferson, North California, Silicon Valley, Central California, West California, and South California. His money will be needed: Proponents need to collect 1 million signatures just to get the idea on the ballot this fall. If the six-state initiative passes in California, residents would have three years to discuss whether the proposed borders make sense for them."

BREAK UP: Will California splinter into 6 states? Voters, Congress could soon decide - Washington Times

Good idea or bad idea? Who would benefit? Who would lose? Is it do-able? Would the feds interfere? (Consider that President Obama would be out of office if this actually happened so don't make his administration a reason for liking/not liking it.) Tell us if you are from California when answering.
Silly idea.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:11 AM
 
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What is with the tendency for people to blow out of proportion the opinion of one or a few people and call it a movement?
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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Just one more reason to eliminate the electoral college and go to one man, one vote.
Electoral college was instituted so all people would be represented, not just the population centers.

Why LSD's favor eliminating it.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Desperate righties desperately trying to bend the arc of progress.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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A small part of CA is calling all the shots and many voices go unheard. I say yes to a split.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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Desperate righties desperately trying to bend the arc of progress.
Progress?

To have a state and communities go bankrupt because of "progress"?
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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A small part of CA is calling all the shots and many voices go unheard. I say yes to a split.
We call that democracy.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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If any state could use to be split up, California is it! I lived in Northern California for awhile. One thing that any Californian can tell you: Northern and Southern California are already two separate states for all intents and purposes.

Having said that, the odds of any break-up of California is unlikely. The last time any state was split into two or more pieces was the creation of West Virginia in 1863. I just don't think California has the momentum and public support to make it happen. We'll see what we see.
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