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Such people are ripe for exploitation by pols who couldn't hack it in Sacramento, and want to create little fiefdoms, and corporations looking forward to new jurisdictions where they can bribe their way into more "business-friendly" regulation environments.
Hah yea "Business-friendly"! They probably want to make "money" and hire people for "jobs".
Jesus can you imagine what a shirt hole rural California will become if this happens?
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Dems will oppose because they want all the electoral votes.
Thats not true.
Electoral college is proportional, the States the Democrats would win are West California, South California, Silicon Valley and North California ( Democrats only lose
8 counties in these 4 states)
Jefferson and Central California are the only states that Republicans would win.
Jefferson, based on the map, would only have 3 electoral votes(2 Senators, 1 congressman). The area currently has 2 Representatives, one Democrat, one Republican, but the Dem District stretches into the population centers in North California. After the split, that Demo District would more than likely move to North California based on population of Jefferson or move back east My guess is to Florida
Average congressional district has 710,000 people in it. California as a state gained over a million people since the 2010 Census, the Bay area and Los Angeles are actually under represented with their average per being about 800,000.
those numbers are all confusing so how about i do a simple break down.
Jefferson has 3 electoral votes
Central California would have 9 electoral votes.
Thats a Republican gain of 11.
the other 4 California's would have 57, Democrats would actual gain 2 electoral college votes plus 5 or 6 seats in congress that previously belonged to Republicans as well as 6 seats in the Senate ( 5 new states, 10 new senators )
in closing, it would be republicans who would be against this, not Democrats because( based on current numbers and assuming Dems won these heavenly democratic states ) this would give a near Supermajority in the new 110 seat senate to the Dems
"Venture capitalist Tim Draper of Silicon Valley has filed paperwork for a November ballot measure that would divide California into six states, calling the Golden State as presently constituted 'too big and bloated.' Mr. Draper’s proposed six states are called, from north to south: Jefferson, North California, Silicon Valley, Central California, West California, and South California. His money will be needed: Proponents need to collect 1 million signatures just to get the idea on the ballot this fall. If the six-state initiative passes in California, residents would have three years to discuss whether the proposed borders make sense for them."
Good idea or bad idea? Who would benefit? Who would lose? Is it do-able? Would the feds interfere? (Consider that President Obama would be out of office if this actually happened so don't make his administration a reason for liking/not liking it.) Tell us if you are from California when answering.
Conservatives are always trying to make right wing states out west. My suggestion is if you want to live in a conservative state out west head to AZ... Mark my words California will never be broken up...
If that's what CA wants, more power to them. A state that large cannot efficiently address the wants and needs of its constituents. Six is probably too much though.
This isn't what California wants! It what wake job California conservatives want...
I am a California resident. Wouldn't bother me in the least if we were broken up into two states. Liberal California and Conservative California. I'd be living in the conservative one even though it would be the smallest of the two states due to most of California being the land of the fruits and nuts.
If that happened who will pay for conservative California's welfare... You guys might need a bailout within months of independence... Just saying... hahaha
Just make the counties (or groups of counties) within the state more powerful and that will give everybody options to put themselves in the boxes they want to fit into. That could decentralize some of the "bloatedness".
Carving the state up can't simply be for one party (or the other's) political gain in DC.
I'm a CA native and a would laugh at this but I've been down this same road so many time with so many people over so many years it's hard to even fake it anymore. haaaa.h...
Nope. Can't do it. And it will never happen. And nobody really wants it to except in their fantasies where they can draw a line to keep "their kind" in and "others" out. But the fascination with CA from out of staters never fails to amaze.
I don't think California will let it happen , they have driven so much business out of the state that there is too few left to pay taxes to fund all those on welfare.
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