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Who cares what was said about cell phones in the auditorium? Is it Mr. Reeves job to enforce this rule? If I see someone run a stop light, should I shoot them because they broke the law? It doesn't matter if he asked, demanded, or whatever, he had no right to kill someone over texting. How crazy!
All the defenders of the dead guy must care. They keep saying the movie hadn't started yet so texting was OK. It wasn't. Not according to rules of the theater. If the theater has a posted rule about cell phones and also has a posted rule about weapons......oopsie............looks like they're both guilty of breaking theater rules.
And clue: The guy didn't pull the gun because of texting. He pulled the gun because a stranger threw an unknown substance in his face. It's called ASSAULT.
So? Oulson still stood up. Why, if not to confront? Then he asked if he went to tell on him, or something to that effect. So stupid.
He would stand up because he's a grown man, a 40-year-old military veteran. If someone was haranguing me while I was sitting anywhere, I'd stand up. Any grown man would, unless he's going to let his wife do the standing. Is that a bit of machismo? Yes. But if I were arguing with another grown man, I would not be surprised if he stood up to face me. To think merely standing up is an unexpectedly surprising move of aggression is absurd.
Defended? Where have you been? Dale Cooper has been defending him up and down this thread.
Don't lie. Not about what I've said. Never have I defended him, per se. I do defend the action of taking action when someone throws an unknown substance in your face. And I've said he'll walk. That's not defending. It's stating the obvious that anti-gun people are incapable of grasping.
So? Oulson still stood up. Why, if not to confront? Then he asked if he went to tell on him, or something to that effect. So stupid.
Perhaps his wife felt threatened and he stood to protect her, as any man would. I don't know.
I am not jumping to any conclusions about who started what or who confronted who since I was not there. That is for a court of law. I am just going by what the eye witness says. You claimed that the victim stood first, and I just pointed out that the shooter was most likely already standing.
I agree, the whole thing is stupid, but most likely for different reasons than you. I think getting upset over someone texting during the previews of a movie is stupid. IMHO, his standing up and going to find the manager was probably far more distracting than letting the guy finish his text to his daughter's day care in the first place. IMHO, it was also stupid to not let the manager do his job. If the victim threw popcorn, then he was also out of line.
I feel for the two women and the little girl who will not have to face life without their loved ones. That is just so sad.
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He would stand up because he's a grown man, a 40-year-old military veteran. If someone was haranguing me while I was sitting anywhere, I'd stand up. Any grown man would, unless he's going to let his wife do the standing. Is that a bit of machismo? Yes. But if I were arguing with another grown man, I would not be surprised if he stood up to face me. To think merely standing up is an unexpectedly surprising move of aggression is absurd.
Plus it's stadium seating and Reeves was in the higher tier behind Oulson. At no time did Oulson climb up over the seats to Reeves level - so therefor no real fear of imminent attack. Reeves was in the higher/dominant position and shot down at Oulson.
There's more to consider than that and he may, indeed, walk.
I seriously doubt that he will walk unless the guy can prove he was temporarily (or permanently) insane. Should this happen, in the future we will have a new legal term called the "movie cellphone defense." This would be followed with the "movie crying baby defense," the "movie loud talker defense", and possibly the "movie popcorn defense." Very very bad legal precedent. Unless the shooter truly is certifiable and not just cranky, he is most likely going to jail. Since Casey Anthony and OJ, I realize anyone can walk, but there are a lot of witnesses in this case and prior incidents. He's been retired way too long to try to use PTSD. Bet he takes a plea.
Can you imagine the voir dire for the jury at the trial? "Do you go to the movies? Do you use a cellphone? Do you text? Do you text in public? What are your feelings about popcorn?"
I seriously doubt that he will walk unless the guy can prove he was temporarily (or permanently) insane. Should this happen, in the future we will have a new legal term called the "movie cellphone defense." This would be followed with the "movie crying baby defense," the "movie loud talker defense", and possibly the "movie popcorn defense." Very very bad legal precedent. Unless the shooter truly is certifiable and not just cranky, he is most likely going to jail. Since Casey Anthony and OJ, I realize anyone can walk, but there are a lot of witnesses in this case and prior incidents. He's been retired way too long to try to use PTSD. Bet he takes a plea.
Can you imagine the voir dire for the jury at the trial? "Do you go to the movies? Do you use a cellphone? Do you text? Do you text in public? What are your feelings about popcorn?"
As a police officer, Reeves was often praised for his problem-solving and ability to manage stressful situations.
"Captain Reeves not only has the ability to act decisively when necessary but has the foresight to initiate the proper course of action to avoid conflict," a supervisor remarked in one job performance review.
Obviously not.
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However, early in his career, one supervisor noted: "Reeves has a tendency to be impatient in regards to legal matters and practices now in force ... and may be abrupt with complainants in some areas of the city."
Ya think?
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In 1968, he was reprimanded for carelessly handling a city weapon
And this was the guy they had teaching gun safety?
Don't lie. Not about what I've said. Never have I defended him, per se. I do defend the action of taking action when someone throws an unknown substance in your face. And I've said he'll walk. That's not defending. It's stating the obvious that anti-gun people are incapable of grasping.
Are you the one who suggested that maybe the shooter thought it was acid in the popcorn box ? I mean, really. He knew it was popcorn, he'd had enough of inconsiderate people who didn't obey him, pulled his gun, and fired. Don't bring popcorn to a gunfight ?
Don't lie. Not about what I've said. Never have I defended him, per se. I do defend the action of taking action when someone throws an unknown substance in your face. And I've said he'll walk. That's not defending. It's stating the obvious that anti-gun people are incapable of grasping.
Perhaps you need to look up the word defend. I'll do it for you:
defend [dih-fend]
verb (used with object)
1.
to ward off attack from; guard against assault or injury (usually followed by from or against ): The sentry defended the gate against sudden attack.
2.
to maintain by argument, evidence, etc.; uphold: She defended her claim successfully.
3.
to contest (a legal charge, claim, etc.).
4.
Law. to serve as attorney for (a defendant): He has defended some of the most notorious criminals.
5.
to support (an argument, theory, etc.) in the face of criticism; prove the validity of (a dissertation, thesis, or the like) by answering arguments and questions put by a committee of specialists.
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