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Old 02-26-2014, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Next thing you know, liberals will be claiming the State owns the sunshine!
In Portland there are set back laws when you start building tall to maximize the amount of sunlight that reaches the street because sunlight is rare there.

There is nothing wrong with the water laws in Oregon unless you get all your news from far right wing propaganda sites like the Heritage Foundation. Maybe you should try reading the actual water laws for the state rather than let a far right wing source spoon feed you.

 
Old 02-26-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Yes, it does, absolutely.

The government cannot "provide for the common good" without first impoverishing the common people.
How true this is. People have had their private property confiscated for "the common (or public) good."

Here in Ohio, one of my neighbors tells me that his land has been declared a "wetland," so even though he owns it, he is restricted as to what he can do with it! That is "Big Government" intrusion on a private individuals land use rights.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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How true this is. People have had their private property confiscated for "the common (or public) good."

Here in Ohio, one of my neighbors tells me that his land has been declared a "wetland," so even though he owns it, he is restricted as to what he can do with it! That is "Big Government" intrusion on a private individuals land use rights.
Well that is how zoning laws function, your neighbor shouldn't have bought a house in a wetland if they wanted to do something on it....speaking of which, what did they want to do with that property that they now can't?
 
Old 02-26-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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In Portland there are set back laws when you start building tall to maximize the amount of sunlight that reaches the street because sunlight is rare there.

There is nothing wrong with the water laws in Oregon unless you get all your news from far right wing propaganda sites like the Heritage Foundation. Maybe you should try reading the actual water laws for the state rather than let a far right wing source spoon feed you.
The Heritage Foundation is not a "far right wing propaganda site!" Further, I have read (just a few minutes ago) about this story on the Huffington Post, a far "left wing" propaganda site.

There is nothing wrong with building a dock on a pond, and as I said above, that has no bearing on this case whatsoever. He stocks the ponds with fish. Gee ... what is he? A conservationist?

Further, water is necessary to protect against fire, one of the reasons he said he built the ponds. What could be smarter than that? People do that here in Ohio too. Imagine that!

Some people like the look of a pond (or two, or more, if you have the acreage), and it adds to the property value (hint: more tax revenue — I guess the officials never thought of that!).

The water laws (as I read them) are ridiculous. They ought to be repealed.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The Heritage Foundation is not a "far right wing propaganda site!" Further, I have read (just a few minutes ago) about this story on the Huffington Post, a far "left wing" propaganda site.

There is nothing wrong with building a dock on a pond, and as I said above, that has no bearing on this case whatsoever. He stocks the ponds with fish. Gee ... what is he? A conservationist?

Further, water is necessary to protect against fire, one of the reasons he said he built the ponds. What could be smarter than that? People do that here in Ohio too. Imagine that!

Some people like the look of a pond (or two, or more, if you have the acreage), and it adds to the property value (hint: more tax revenue — I guess the officials never thought of that!).

The water laws (as I read them) are ridiculous. They ought to be repealed.
I have a feeling you didn't read Oregon water laws.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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The Heritage Foundation is not a "far right wing propaganda site!"
that is precisely what it is
 
Old 02-26-2014, 08:13 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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If your only source of information is the Heritage Foundation then of course that's the only conclusion bt if you actually read into the subject you will see this makes sense. I would expect water rights is an issue for republicans, democrats alike but don't miss out on an opportunity to make this a political issue, the Heritage Foundation is for simple minds.
I also read about it in the Huff Po. There is nothing that makes sense about this. It's absurd. Period.

As for the "Heritage Foundation is for simple minds" comment, that shows your extreme left wing bias and your own ignorance. It's an attack based on your personal bias, which means it's baseless. Many of it's senior staff, including it's founder, hold Ph.D's. Do you have a Ph.D?

Do you think I have a "simple mind" because I read items from Heritage? Do you think the Huffington Post is a better source of information on such issues of law than Heritage?

The truth is, you don't like Heritage simply because it is a conservative organization. That means, in your sophomoric mind, that they can't possibly have a valid point of view on anything, because they are in the "dark ages." Right?

I also read "Imprimis," a publication of Hillsdale College, and have been working through their college course on Constitution 101 and 201. I guess that really makes me a simpleton and non-thinker, right?
 
Old 02-26-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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Do you think I have a "simple mind" because I read items from Heritage?
no, i think you have a simple mind because you believe what you read from Heritage.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 08:22 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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no, i think you have a simple mind because you believe what you read from Heritage.
Thank you for that personal attack, and I'll where it as a badge of honor, because Heritage is a respected institution, and anything they publish beats anything from "Think Progress," the Web site of "Center for American Progress," the extreme left wing think tank, and distributor of Leftist propaganda.

Anyone who hides their profile info from anyone is suspect, because they are hiding something. What is it you're hiding?
 
Old 02-26-2014, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Well that is how zoning laws function, your neighbor shouldn't have bought a house in a wetland if they wanted to do something on it....speaking of which, what did they want to do with that property that they now can't?
Exactly. Zoning laws serve a valuable purpose, first of which protects you the property owner from losing value because of crappy neighbors.
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