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if you have a manufacturing company for example, and water is limited, they deny you water so it can go to farmers...
Um, that provision determines who - among appropriated claims - gets water in instances of shortage when there is not enough water to fulfill all the appropriated claims. It has nothing to do with unappropriated water claims or denying claims to unappropriated water. It's clearly not a contradiction.
Um, that provision determines who - among appropriated claims - gets water in instances of shortage when there is not enough water to fulfill all the appropriated claims. It has nothing to do with unappropriated water claims or denying claims to unappropriated water. It's clearly not a contradiction.
Sure it is....
Tell me if a manufacturer sits up stream from a farm, and the farm gets preferential treatment first, how do you then get that water back up stream to the manufacturer after the farm got their appropriate use out of it?
You cant, you denied the manufacturer use completely since water doesnt roll up hill..
So you can't answer the question. Or, more likely, you're not willing to reveal what you think, becuase that would, well, discredit you.
Or, here's a much simpler explanation. The laws are good enough as it is.
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I hope you fall in your well.
I've seriously considered doing the runoff water into water cisterns to try and control my costs. If nothing else for toilet water.
Haha
Which state do you live in? Here I get about 40 inches of rain a year, evenly dispersed.
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Samalia has no rule of law. Is that what you want? Most of us don't.
Some of you guys seem like you want us to be like Somalia.
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Um, the state, i.e. government, usually owns the water companies and actually does sell water to you at monopoly prices. Who owns the water company which delivers water through the pipes?
So if you are paying a flat rate, (which is actually probably illegal, but thats another topic), its not really free is it?
And if the state decides that the rain water shouldnt flow into that well, what exactly would you have used?
My water company is a public utility owned by investors, not the state.
Not illegal. Water is included in my rent. If I use up more water than I did the previous months, the property management company eats up the cost. My rent does not change month to month.
Why would they arbitrarily decide to not let water flow into my well? My house up in the mountains did not divert any water anywhere. I had a pump that pumped up groundwater. Simple as that. Gosh, you guys really need to get new arguing methods that don't rely on slippery slopes and extreme hypothetical scenarios
My water company is a public utility owned by investors, not the state.
In many parts of the country thats not true, but if your water company is owned by investors, then you now think that investors should control the water over the people where the rain lands?
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Not illegal. Water is included in my rent. If I use up more water than I did the previous months, the property management company eats up the cost. My rent does not change month to month.
So you arent paying a flat rate for water, you are paying a flat rate for rent, and water is included. There is a difference between the two... Charging a flat rate for the water, seperate for the rent is indeed illegal usually if you live in a building with 2+ units
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Why would they arbitrarily decide to not let water flow into my well? My house up in the mountains did not divert any water anywhere. I had a pump that pumped up groundwater. Simple as that. Gosh, you guys really need to get new arguing methods that don't rely on slippery slopes and extreme hypothetical scenarios
They arbitrarily decided not to let water flow into a barrel, why wouldnt the same argument apply to a well?
Or, here's a much simpler explanation. The laws are good enough as it is.
That's not an explanation. That's dodging the question. It's what liberals do. When asked to explain their thinking on something where they have to explain how they decide what government should control, they NEVER answer.
Good luck with that. Oregons got a VERY sensible law about it-if it hits your roof or structure its yours. If it hits the land its not. You can't block it and keep it from going to other places. This is a VERY common law throughout the country-although many dont even let you take the rain that hits your structures. Oregon if anything is more permissive. And theres a TON of history and rational about why this is a good practice.
In Florida drinking water comes from the underground aquifer yet the state does not believe water that falls on your property is theirs.
Nothing herein, or in any rule, regulation, or order adopted pursuant hereto, shall be construed to affect the right of any natural person to capture, discharge, and use water for purposes permitted by law.
In Florida drinking water comes from the underground aquifer yet the state does not believe water that falls on your property is theirs.
Nothing herein, or in any rule, regulation, or order adopted pursuant hereto, shall be construed to affect the right of any natural person to capture, discharge, and use water for purposes permitted by law.
You know you CAN collect rainwater for use in Oregon if you want, you just have to make sure it meets regulations so that you aren't creating a danger to your surrounding neighbors.
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