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Old 02-27-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Wright specifically stated Trinity UCC's vision statement was based on systematized Black Liberation theology that began with the publication of Cone's book.
Exactly. Read all the racist hate speech in Cone's book.
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:48 PM
 
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"that began with the publication....."

That only states that Cone's book began the systematic study and explanation of Black Liberation theology.
Yes, in extremely racist terms.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:29 PM
 
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Obama is not Wright. And Wright is not Cone.

The American people have been able to make this distinction twice now. Perhaps it is time you caught up.
Re-elections on promises of free stuff, misrepresentation (LIE) about Obamacare and using the IRS does not make it a respectable accomplishment (nothing to brag about).
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This is NOT a birther thread. We are for the most part a product of our own experience, our surroundings, the people we are around. It is about a man who with limited American experience.
Product of our experiences? I imagine that explains where the hate and bitterness certain people have for President Obama arises from. As for "limited American experience," I think that is also incorrect. He has had a widespread American experience--college in LA (Occidental College), New York (Columbia University) and Boston (Harvard Law) where he was elected President of Harvard Law Review, and worked in Chicago as a community organizer, then became Senator from Illinois. Sounds like his American experience is much vaster and more accomplished than many other government representatives can claim of theirs.

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In between rounds of golf
Obama has played 150 rounds of golf in 5 years. Former President Woodrow Wilson is thought to have played nearly 1,200 rounds of golf, while former President Dwight Eisenhower reportedly played 800 rounds of the sport. Bush preferred to simply go back to the ranch on his many vacation days. He also explained why presidents play golf: "I see our president criticized for playing golf. I don't. I think he ought to play golf," Bush told the Golf Channel. "Because I know what it's like to be in the bubble. I know the pressures of the job, and to be able to get outside and play golf with some of your pals is important for the president. It does give you an outlet."

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President Barak Hussein Omeba is busy fomenting class war, redistributing wealth, undermining capitalism, inciting racial division, and burying future generations of Americans under colossal mountains of debt.
It's Obama, not Omeba, and do you have some credible sources to back up your personal assertions? They appear to be biased and empty opinions of tea party extremists. Also please put the stats for debt in context.

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He lived his formative years living in Indonesia and has traveled the world. He has seen first hand the consequences of socialist and Sharia government.
Barack Obama has an unusual and interesting background, which the tea party extremists have used to paint him as a dangerous, camouflaged radical Muslim. Much of the information presented by them about his background is distorted and exaggerated, however, and no evidence supports a claim that Obama is a Muslim (radical or otherwise) or that he endorsed Sharia law.

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Obamas mother, a leftist married a communist Muslim, Barack Obama, Sr., whom she admired greatly (and met in a Russian language class).
Barack Hussein Obama (Obama's father) was born in Alego, Kenya. He met and married an American woman, Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas, while they were both attending the University of Hawaii. Obama's family histories note that his father was an atheist or agnostic (i.e., no longer a practicing Muslim) by the time he married the younger Obama's mother.

Pres Obama on his mother: "she provided me with no religious instruction. In her mind, a working knowledge of the world's great religions was a necessary part of any well-rounded education. In our household the Bible, the Koran, and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology. On Easter or Christmas Day my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites. But I was made to understand that such religious samplings required no sustained commitment on my part. Religion was an expression of human culture, she would explain, not its wellspring, just one of the many ways — and not necessarily the best way — that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives. In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist she would become; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well."

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She moved on to Obama's stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian Muslim, whom she divorced when he espoused an appreciation for capitalism and openly rejected communism. In 1967, Dunham and Obama moved to Jakarta to rejoin Soetoro. The Indonesia-America Friendship Institute–which was subsidized by U.S. government. Stanley Ann sent Obama back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents to get him away from Soetoro's influence. His grandparents, leftists to the core, put him in Punahou School, which was a hotbed of anti-colonialism and anti-Americanism.
When the younger Obama was six years old, his mother married again, this time to Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian oil manager. Barack and his mother moved to Jakarta, Indonesia, where Obama spent 4-5 years attending both Muslim and Catholic schools before his mother sent him back to the United States to live with his maternal grandmother.

Upon returning to Hawaii in 1971, his grandparents sent him to the exclusive Punahou School in Honululu, which was also the biggest private school in the country at the time. Obama was a popular student there, participating in various extra-curricular activities while maintaining respectable grades. The pinnacle of his achievement at Punahou was playing for the school basketball team that finished as State Champions in 1979. Ka Punahou was given by Liliha and her husband, Oahu's Governor Bodi to Reverand Hiram Bingham, one of the first Protestant missionaries in Hawaii. More here about that "hotbed of anti-Americanism."

Punahou School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I do not think you did a very good job of saying who Barack Obama is. It is more of a smear and hatchet job. In typical rightwing extremist form--you picked out myths and lies that have long been debunked and you stated them as fact.
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Re-elections on promises of free stuff, misrepresentation (LIE) about Obamacare and using the IRS does not make it a respectable accomplishment (nothing to brag about).
Reelection because the American people judged him to be the better of the two candidates.
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:04 PM
 
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I associate with "known conservatives" and yet no one would mistake me for a conservative. Some of the most influential people in my life have very little politically or theologically in common with me.

Have you only ever surrounded yourself with people who think just like you?

Little need for that. People who don't think like me are generally wrong. Why would I seek advice or information from people who are idiots?

I prefer to associate with people who are successful, positive, and have a good sense of humor. I find that very few, if any, liberals meet those criteria. Most liberals I have run across in life are negatives and the losers of society, both socially and economically.
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:37 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Little need for that. People who don't think like me are generally wrong. Why would I seek advice or information from people who are idiots?

I prefer to associate with people who are successful, positive, and have a good sense of humor. I find that very few, if any, liberals meet those criteria. Most liberals I have run across in life are negatives and the losers of society, both socially and economically.

Thank you for making my day. My very successful smart, good looking younger son feels the exact way that you do. And he feels the say way about liberals. He is actually too damn smart for his own good, and he feels the same way you do about liberals, and heeding their warp sense of ideals. Hate to say it but he is always right, and yes I can admit that I am wrong a lot. But still learning.

Does no TAKE much, you can look and see changes taking place, and a Country not at ease. What Hope, and a farce sense of CHANGE. Excuses never really make something what some want it to be. But a warp sense of how you perceive the deceit.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:14 AM
 
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Little need for that. People who don't think like me are generally wrong. Why would I seek advice or information from people who are idiots?

I prefer to associate with people who are successful, positive, and have a good sense of humor. I find that very few, if any, liberals meet those criteria. Most liberals I have run across in life are negatives and the losers of society, both socially and economically.
I agree, most liberals are negative, losers especially economically. They are liberals because they hope to be on the receiving end of the money grab. Even if they are, they would end up back where they started because they don't have a clue handle it and why they are in their position in the first place.

Of the rich liberals, they look down on the poor. They use "giving" not from the heart but as part of being excepted within the elite.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:29 AM
 
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Exactly. Read all the racist hate speech in Cone's book.
Why?

There are many other authors and articles about Black Liberation theology. Just because Cone's book was the first does not make it the most authoritative. The first biography of George Washington may not be the best biography of George Washington. I'd prefer to spend my time and resources reading the best authorities.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:31 AM
 
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Yes, in extremely racist terms.
So? If you don't want to read a book that is racist, don't read the book. Black Liberation theology isn't particularly fascinating to me. It's not particularly relevant to my life. So if I'm going to read about Black Liberation theology, I'm going to look for the most authoritative, most objective studies on the topic. Not the most racist, regardless if it was the first or not.
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