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Old 04-30-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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If you pander, you play favorites. If you play favorites, the folks who are not in the group called Favorite will notice that they are not as fondly thought of as the favorites are. Over time, they'll begin to believe that you don't care about them even a little.

Democrats have pandered to minorities so hard for so long, that it really cannot be all that surprising that white folks by majority think maybe the Democrats don't really give a damn about them.
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Wrong.

That said, I really don't think anything in the OP is "a lie." Per se.

I think gunlover actually believes all of the idiotic sophistries that he filled it with. That would make them delusions rather than lies.
Oh, but he was.

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

Hitler was a Leftist who wanted a classless society based on Race!
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Oh, but he was.

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

Hitler was a Leftist who wanted a classless society based on Race!
Hitler wanted healthcare for all and same sex marriage to be legal? That is news to me.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Oh, but he was.
Oh, but he wasn't. This bizarre "Hitler was a leftist" meme is a fairly recent invention. No serious political historian gives it a nanosecond of credit.

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"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

Hitler was a Leftist who wanted a classless society based on Race!
Yes. This is an accurate quote. It was one of Hitler’s ‘unalterable’ 25 points that he completely ignored after seizing power.

Hitler's Party was labeled National Socialism. What he did was to take the main focus of the Right - Nationalism, and combine it with the main focus of the Left - Socialism.

In reality, the Socialism aspect was cynical opportunism; Hitler was no Socialist. In practice, the Nazi program was whatever was the most expedient at the time. Hitler would make wonderful speeches talking about how his Nazis were for the workers. After he gained power in 1933, he adopted the very first May Day--the holiday of the Communists and Socialists--as a Nazi holiday, holding a huge Nuremberg-type rally to 'celebrate' the German worker. The very next day--May 2--he outlawed all of Germany's labor unions, invaded their offices and arrested their officers. He then forced all of the German workers to join the Nazi Party's 'labor' union, the 'Labor Front.'

It was all a scam, as he then proceeded to give all power to the shop managers, while setting up sham workers panels with no power. In short, the Nazis were Socialists in name only, similar to how the USSR was made up of a group of 'Republics.'

But nice try.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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If you pander, you play favorites. If you play favorites, the folks who are not in the group called Favorite will notice that they are not as fondly thought of as the favorites are. Over time, they'll begin to believe that you don't care about them even a little.

Democrats have pandered to minorities so hard for so long, that it really cannot be all that surprising that white folks by majority think maybe the Democrats don't really give a damn about them.
Factor in flooding this nation with 1.1,000,000 legal immigrates a year along with up to 1,000,000 illegal every year they want to give citizenship to up to 20,000,000 leftist entitlement voters that will drown out the hard working, freedom loving masses that only wish to bathe liberty`s restoring illumination, losing their political might to a drudges of the 3rd world who will vote for the same failed ideals and ideologues that killed their home nations, who will vote anyone who gives them a welfare check and a citizenship and dont care if the turn this nation into a the same 3rd world hellhole they have fled from....

And we are bad for wanting to prevent the ruling class from importing serfs.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Factor in flooding this nation with 1.1,000,000 legal immigrates a year along with up to 1,000,000 illegal every year they want to give citizenship to up to 20,000,000 leftist entitlement voters that will drown out the hard working, freedom loving masses that only wish to bathe liberty`s restoring illumination, losing their political might to a drudges of the 3rd world who will vote for the same failed ideals and ideologues that killed their home nations, who will vote anyone who gives them a welfare check and a citizenship and dont care if the turn this nation into a the same 3rd world hellhole they have fled from....

And we are bad for wanting to prevent the ruling class from importing serfs.
If this thread is about illegal aliens, it should be moved to the illegals subforum where it belongs.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:35 PM
 
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Oh, but he was.

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

Hitler was a Leftist who wanted a classless society based on Race!

Hitler was a Leftist who wanted a classless society based on Race! - YouTube
People should have already known this. There is a very strong link between socialism and fascism.

https://www2.lawrence.edu/sorg/OBJECTIVISM/SOCFASC.HTML

Includes more on Hitler and the Nazi party.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It not about illegals, Are you saying that democarts do not want to grant citizenship to illegals for a massive politician gain?
No, they do not want to grant citizenship to illegals for a massive political gain, that is just the fear mongering the right wing media tells you to believe.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Factor in flooding this nation with 1.1,000,000 legal immigrates a year along with up to 1,000,000 illegal every year they want to give citizenship to up to 20,000,000 leftist entitlement voters that will drown out the hard working, freedom loving masses that only wish to bathe liberty`s restoring illumination, losing their political might to a drudges of the 3rd world who will vote for the same failed ideals and ideologues that killed their home nations, who will vote anyone who gives them a welfare check and a citizenship and dont care if the turn this nation into a the same 3rd world hellhole they have fled from....

And we are bad for wanting to prevent the ruling class from importing serfs.
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If this thread is about illegal aliens, it should be moved to the illegals subforum where it belongs.
It not about illegals, Are you saying that democrats do not want to grant citizenship to illegals for a massive politician gain?
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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No, they do not want to grant citizenship to illegals for a massive political gain, that is just the fear mongering the right wing media tells you to believe.
Really? How so? Did you see what they did to California from 1986 to 1996?

I love how when anything is real or based on fact and basic observation it either a lie or fear mongering...
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