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Old 05-26-2014, 05:41 AM
 
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We budgeted 18,000 a year for state college. The cost went up dramatically when they had to move out of dorms. This we did not budget for. And they really ********* over because you have to pay rent for the summer months as well.
Why did they have to move out of dorms? I went to a public university and lived in the residence halls all four years.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:18 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Why did they have to move out of dorms? I went to a public university and lived in the residence halls all four years.
A lot of colleges admit so many first year students that upperclassmen (juniors and seniors) are moved out of the dorms, reserving those spaces for 1st and 2nd year students.

Even if the college provides housing outside of dorms (think apartments) the cost is higher.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:27 AM
 
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A lot of colleges admit so many first year students that upperclassmen (juniors and seniors) are moved out of the dorms, reserving those spaces for 1st and 2nd year students.

Even if the college provides housing outside of dorms (think apartments) the cost is higher.
Room mates?
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:54 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Room mates?

Even with roommates the individual cost is higher.
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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A lot of colleges admit so many first year students that upperclassmen (juniors and seniors) are moved out of the dorms, reserving those spaces for 1st and 2nd year students.

Even if the college provides housing outside of dorms (think apartments) the cost is higher.
Which collleges do this?
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Wow, my daughter and sister would love that schedule lol Where do you live where the kids get a month off for christmas and 2 weeks off for spring break. And yes, teachers do work weekends and even evenings. They teach during the day and grade papers, read book reports, tutor the kids who need help etc after school has ended. They also have to plan for the next day..... they have meetings, parent conferences. They spend many evenings there for dances, ice cream socials and so on. A teachers day doesn't end when school ends. Personally, I would rather work in an office 8 to 6 with 2 weeks off then to teach kids. I think teaching is one of the hardest jobs there is and they get no respect.
Quick, name a profession that pays well that doesn't require working more than 40 hours, meetings, planning, reviewing reports, etc, after 5pm....
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:25 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Which collleges do this?
University of Maryland, College Park
Towson University, Towson, MD
Slippery Rock University, Slippery Rock, PA (until the mid-00s when they remodeled some dorms)
Clarion University, Clarion, PA (that was back in the 70s)
Bowie State University, Bowie, MD

Actually, quite a few, these are just the ones I felt like thinking of.
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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What does it matter to you what other people do with their money?
It doesn't, as long as they don't plan on defaulting on the debt and expecting the taxpayers to foot the bill.

I couldn't care less about what degree someone gets as long as they pull their own weight and don't end up expecting working people to support them because they choose to major in "LGBT studies", basket weaving or other essentially useless field and refuse to take a job that doesn't fit their degree.
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:55 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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It doesn't, as long as they don't plan on defaulting on the debt and expecting the taxpayers to foot the bill.

I couldn't care less about what degree someone gets as long as they pull their own weight and don't end up expecting working people to support them because they choose to major in "LGBT studies", basket weaving or other essentially useless field and refuse to take a job that doesn't fit their degree.
The problem is that is what they expect.

College used to be something you did to learn an employable skill, now people go to "find" themselves and follow their dreams.

No one is going to pay you to follow your dreams. If someone tells you to find a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life they are lying to you. You should be going to school to learn something that pays well and you don't mind doing it for the next 40 years.

Every job that you think would be fun, well, so does everyone else. So for those jobs you hav scores of people applying for few positions, thus the pay sucks.
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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The problem is that is what they expect.

College used to be something you did to learn an employable skill, now people go to "find" themselves and follow their dreams.

No one is going to pay you to follow your dreams. If someone tells you to find a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life they are lying to you. You should be going to school to learn something that pays well and you don't mind doing it for the next 40 years.

Every job that you think would be fun, well, so does everyone else. So for those jobs you hav scores of people applying for few positions, thus the pay sucks.
That's absolutely not true!

A college degree has always been promoted as the ticket into the middle class, someone's major mattered very little. I worked in HR, doing hiring in the 90's and early 2000's for professional white collar companies. Most white collar entry level jobs simply required a BA or BS in any major, and one could work their way up from there. Most students don't have a clue what they want to do at 18 years old, and part of college is exploring that. College has always been about becoming a well rounded person with well honed reading, writing, and critical thinking skills, as well as the ability to show that one has the work ethic and maturity to complete everything the degree requires.

This idea that there are "useless" majors, and those graduates deserve to be unemployed is new, and is pushed by the far right media machine. It's corporate propaganda to excuse the fact that corporations are replacing middle class jobs with low wage jobs so there simply aren't enough decent paying jobs for all the college graduates, and they are keeping the majority of wages stagnate. Meanwhile the executive suites are filled with massively ballooning salaries, so the top floor with the CEO, CFO, presidents, VPs, etc. is filled with those earning enough for 20 lifetimes while the average employees get whatever scraps are leftover. The brainwashed fall for the corporate agenda, but our economy can only get so top heavy before it completely collapses.

Those who simply wanted employable skills used to learn them through apprenticeship situations, or went to work at a company right after high school, but pushed to be trained on various machines/programs that paid better. Our economy needs a good number of living wage jobs that don't require college, or the debt load will only increase as degrees are devalued. The self righteous can scream "they must pay back every dime," but they will be screaming as our country falls to **** because no one has money to support the economy because most American's earnings are all going toward student loan payments.

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