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But it doesn't answer the question as to why liberals attack Christianity but are to cowardly to do so with Islam.
Liberals don't attack Christianity;conservative Christians attack liberal values. Liberal values include logic, reason, equality, justice and truth. Conservatives Christians value authority, dogma, hierarchy, privilege and ignornace.
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I think all Muslims have some deep seated radicalism in them.
Evidence?
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Just because you do not see any of this violence in America doesn't mean they do no want to do it.
So if they don't appear to want violence, we should assume they secretly want violence?
See what I said above about conservative Christians not valuing logic and reason.
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When counting from year 700 to now how many non-muslims were killed by muslims in the name of islam, 100 million is a low number, and goes probably much higher.
Either the remote past is on the table for purposes of the comparison or it isn't. It's not admissible in the case of Muslims, yet "the Dark Ages!" for Christians.
Originally Posted by steven_h Again, you are going back 1000 years, and it was the Muslims who initiated the wars after cutting off access to Christian holy places. Let's stick to recent history, because we are talking about current affairs.
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Okay, sure. That doesn't take away from the fact that more people have died in the name of "god" than any other cause, be it modern, current affairs or 1000 years ago.
OKay, but that's all inclusive. We've gone from comparing Christians to Muslims, to killing in the name of God. I mean there's a huge canyon between the two.
The US has never entered, or started, a war in the name of God as far as I know.
You can go through history and find any number of ages to fit any meme you want. We live in the now, not the then. The only religiously motivated warmongers in the now are extreme Islamists, period. You can find little pockets of religious violence from other groups, but it isn't worldwide and as prevalent.
That is the only point I've been trying to make.
You can argue, and make irrelevant historical links, but the truth is still the truth.
Let me put it this way. Very few people on this earth are worried about Christians or Jews breaking down their doors and forcing them to convert before being beheaded.
Liberals don't attack Christianity;conservative Christians attack liberal values. Liberal values include logic, reason, equality, justice and truth. Conservatives Christians value authority, dogma, hierarchy, privilege and ignornace.
OH PLEASE!
I suppose you speak for all Liberals?
"Christians attack liberal values. Liberal values include logic, reason, equality, justice and truth."
That is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. The only thing attacked are the lack of values, and the hypocrisy they display daily.
Either the remote past is on the table for purposes of the comparison or it isn't. It's not admissible in the case of Muslims, yet "the Dark Ages!" for Christians.
Whether ones goes back 1,400 years or just the last 100, the volume of terrorism and murder by muslims committed in the name of their death cult called islam dwarfs anything done by christians.
The sheer number of destroyed/crushed civilizations by muslims as they forcibly, violently spread islam from west africa to the phillippines is mind-boggling. We are seeing the same violence applied today to the large number of non-muslims who have managed to hang on in the mideast.
Whether ones goes back 1,400 years or just the last 100, the volume of terrorism and murder by muslims committed in the name of their death cult called islam dwarfs anything done by christians.
The sheer number of destroyed/crushed civilizations by muslims as they forcibly, violently spread islam from west africa to the phillippines is mind-boggling. We are seeing the same violence applied today to the large number of non-muslims who have managed to hang on in the mideast.
Ah and the Christian west has never crushed a civilisation? Has never spread 'western enlightenment' by conquest?
Ah and the Christian west has never crushed a civilisation? Has never spread 'western enlightenment' by conquest?
Nowhere near to the same degree as muslims. Obviously christians have been involved in some large wars, but not in the name of religion have they destroyed so many civilizations, or slaughtered as many people - in the name of christ. It is not even close.
Whether ones goes back 1,400 years or just the last 100, the volume of terrorism and murder by muslims committed in the name of their death cult called islam dwarfs anything done by christians.
Well, the Holocaust was chiefly perpetrated by Christians, and the other mass democides of the 20th Century were nearly all committed by non-Muslims (USSR, China, Kampuchea, Rwanda, etc.) The only true exception is the Armenian genocide; there was also the bloodbath in East Pakistan in 1971, but that was certainly not done "in the name of Islam", but for political reasons, and most of the victims were Muslims. You'd be very hard pressed to prove your claim.
I am a Liberal and I have never seen any religion that was, as practiced by its most fanatic adherents, peaceful.
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