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Old 06-08-2014, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The attempt to qualify US and Brit pilots, and the western forces, as being religious in nature was a leap for sure.
They weren't mainly Christians? What were they?

 
Old 06-08-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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The attempt to qualify US and Brit pilots, and the western forces, as being religious in nature was a leap for sure.
Everyone is an evil Christian if you don't agree with certain folks or an evil homophobe, islamahpobe etc. etc. etc. All they can do is throw out names and stereotype folks to fit their agenda. Pathetic.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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The attempt to qualify US and Brit pilots, and the western forces, as being religious in nature was a leap for sure.
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They weren't mainly Christians? What were they?
You can't seem to get your head around the fact that the US military is not religiously motivated, unlike the Mujahideen, Al Qaeda, Al Shabaab, Taliban, Boko Haram, and the other 200+ Islam extremists groups.

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Old 06-08-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by steven_h
The attempt to qualify US and Brit pilots, and the western forces, as being religious in nature was a leap for sure.


You can't seem to get your head around the fact that the US military is not religiously motivated, unlike the Mujahideen, Al Qaeda, Al Shabaab, Taliban, Boko Haram, and the other 200+ Islam extremists groups.

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Holy crap...
Bu....bu....bu............but they may go to church once in a while or say a prayer before jumping out of a plane...........even the democrat troops.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Bu....bu....bu............but they may go to church once in a while or say a prayer before jumping out of a plane...........even the democrat troops.
Being deflective and dismissive of the truth is the same as lying, IMHO. It's absurd the way some of the posters in here will nibble at the very edge of rational thought.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Other than the common example of Westboro Baptist, Who would be these "Radical Christians" that you speak of?



That's just it, you have to go back to the DARK AGES, which is why they are called the DARK AGES. There have been plenty of battles waged by lunatics under the guise of religion, and today is no different. It just happens to be under the banner of the Muslim God in the modern era. I guess you could say that Christianity has progressed well away from violence, except for a very few outliers.

The Muslim Brotherhood, on the other hand, has more than 2 million members. I read somewhere that there could be as many as 20M radicalized Islamists. I think this is probably low.

The 30 years War was not in Europes Dark Ages but in Europes Rennaissance and period of Enlightenment i.e. in the 17th Century. While that was going on, Issac Newton wrote Principia, Descartes came up with Cartesian coordinents, and Christoper Wren and Mr Bernini were building St Paul's and and Peters Basilicas in london and Rome , respectively . Horrible acts of inhumanity where happening in a Christain world that was modern or more modern than medieval so don't pedal the rubbish that somehow we've changed. It was Christian Germany that caused the Holecaust in the 20 th century and Pope Pius XXII really did very little to try to stop it or to tell the world it was happening. Can you explain why Britain and the United States of America who had a good idea what was happening at places like Birkenau, Treblinka or Maidenek also looked the other way.

Now I view the Muslim Brotherhood like I view the Christian Democratic parties in Europe and outfits like Opus Dei a rightwing 20th Century movement in the Catholic World. Opus Dei is like ly behind Death squads in the nations of Latin America where Liberation theology has appeared in the Cathloic community. Archbishop Romero was murdered in El Salvador by such a Death squad as were 7 American nuns. When not oppressed the Muslim Brotherhooh backs socalled Justice Parties like the one in Turkey of PM Erdowan Turkey isn't being run by crazed extremists. The people Egypt moved in a majority for the Muslim Brotherhood backed Justice Party which was ousted by Gen al -Sisi who banned it and the Brotherhood. Gen al-Sissi only got votes from less than 17% of the Egyptian people when he tried to get electorail legitamacy this is really quite embarassing for Gen al Sissi and his American backers.

So i think your attempt to prove Muslims are violent extremeist is absurd and say you should be comforted that Mr Putin's thugs in East Ukraine and and Crimea today are such good Christains that they get absolution from Patriarch Cyrill as does their boss President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 05:24 PM
 
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Being deflective and dismissive of the truth is the same as lying, IMHO. It's absurd the way some of the posters in here will nibble at the very edge of rational thought.

I don't see Christian church folks blowing up others. I do see Muslim extremest folks who abide by the Q blowing folks up. Some bring up the Crusades.......that was years ago. Times change. I work with a couple Muslims and don't trust em a bit. They are always slinking around filling water bottles...........probably to send back home.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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You can't seem to get your head around the fact that the US military is not religiously motivated, unlike the Mujahideen, Al Qaeda, Al Shabaab, Taliban, Boko Haram, and the other 200+ Islam extremists groups.
B*****s...most folks like you can't get your heads around the fact that any Muslim--even apostate Muslims like (bisexual Marxist) Yasser Arafat or (whiskey-swilling) Ali Jinnah or ("let's do a copy of the Quran in blood") Saddam Hussein, ever have had any motivation for anything, apart from religion.

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Old 06-08-2014, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Again, you are going back 1000 years, and it was the Muslims who initiated the wars after cutting off access to Christian holy places. Let's stick to recent history, because we are talking about current affairs.
Okay, sure. That doesn't take away from the fact that more people have died in the name of "god" than any other cause, be it modern, current affairs or 1000 years ago.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 05:36 PM
 
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B*****s....you can't get your head around the fact that any Muslim--even apostate Muslims like (bisexual Marxist) Yasser Arafat or (whiskey-swilling) Ali Jinnah or ("let's do a copy of the Quran in blood") Saddam Hussein, ever has any motivation for anything, apart from religion.
Oh Sadaam the saint............who when took power killed every one of his opponents and all their families women and children to boot so they wouldn't come back to haunt him?? Yes that is what you support.

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