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It's good that there is outrage and indignation across the country, but instances of police abuse, murder, excessive force, harassment, preoccupation with aggressive policing of 'vices', etc., are actually local issues that need to be addressed by citizens within a police bureau's jurisdiction.
The people (citizens/voters) who hire a city's mayor and council, etc., need to demand that those elected officials take steps to control the police and set and enforce various standards and priorities. It is their job to do so (elected officials always hire police chiefs, or hire those who the chief, etc., and have enormous power to shape policing practices) and it is the job of citizens to demand responsiveness from those they elect.
Until and unless people within these municipalities where bad policing occurs stand up in a meaningful way and demand and accept nothing less than transparency and reform, then there will be no change.
But it is okay for them to murder people for doing the same thing if they have been ACCUSED of crimes in the past?
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Look, I've had a run in with the law before and I've run into power hungry cops who I would have loved to punched in the face or seen them assigned to cleaning jail house toilets. There's good ones and bad ones.
The ones who are not bad are unwilling or unable to discipline or imprison the bad ones, at this point the whole organization is a net negative upon society. There is a cop in Florida who watched another cop speed at over 20 mph over the speed limit every day, eventually stopping and citing the cop...
She then faced threats and harassment from over a hundred officers in the state of FL.
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But, when dealing with cops, I know that you catch more bees with honey than vinegar.
The Jews should have just been nice to Nazi officers, that would have saved them....
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You disarm them by cooperating and not being combative.
So, if they are violating your rights, you give them up to the people they are expressly meant to protect you from? What is the point of being a free person at that point? You just give up your freedom the first sign of complication.
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If you haven't committed a crime, you have nothing to worry about.
Uh, that is simply a lie.
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Yes, maybe your being inconvenienced but these guys are usually dealing with knuckleheads so you can understand they might have a chip on their shoulder sometimes.
So that makes it okay for them to violate peoples rights and act outside of due process?
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If, on the other hand, you want to try and exercise your 'rights', well, you might get tuned up a little bit.
Why are you putting rights in quotes? Do you not believe in the rights that are guaranteed to Americans?
You think people should get "tuned up" for using the rights that are the whole point of freedom? In this case "tuned up" means MURDERED WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.
Xander Crews: Perhaps you should just move to the Alaskan Wilderness where you won't have to follow all these rules and you can just do as you please (as long at you're not hunting or fishing out of season, you'll be fine).
Xander Crews: Perhaps you should just move to the Alaskan Wilderness where you won't have to follow all these rules and you can just do as you please (as long at you're not hunting or fishing out of season, you'll be fine).
WTF are you talking about not following the rules?! EXCERCISING YOUR RIGHTS IS FOLLOWING THE RULES AND MAKING SURE THE POLICE DO AS WELL.
You are the one who is advocating that people forsake the rules in the face of power hungry thugs in an attempt to win their favor....
I wonder if Obama supporters feel schizo. They want a police state and yet rail when its turned against them. Or they complain about a police state and yet oppose the safeguards we have to prevent one, I.E. the Second Amendment.
Granted the few most vocal left wingers here on CD are shills sitting in a cubicle and are paid to try to push a view and don't necessarily believe what they post, but it still pertains to some casual posters.
I wonder how many here cheer when the courts knock Obama down for his illegal actions but then cheer on the police for their illegal actions?
Why is it we can't simply condemn illegal actions?
I live in the real world. Not some fantasy world where physical resistance produces positive results.
Ok, so you don't believe human rights are practical in the real world. I do.
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MLK seldom resisted arrest. He called lawyers. The world is better because of it.
And C.O. Chinn threatened police with guns and also helped the the civil rights movement immensely...
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Chinn was a black man in Canton, Mississippi, who in the 1960s owned a farm, a rhythm and blues nightclub, a bootlegging operation, and a large collection of pistols, rifles, and shotguns with which he threatened local Klansmen and police when they attempted to encroach on his businesses or intimidate civil rights activists working to desegregate Canton and register black residents to vote. After one confrontation, in which a pistol-packing Chinn forced the notoriously racist and brutal local sheriff to stand down inside the county courthouse during a hearing for a civil rights worker, the lawman admitted, "There are only two bad sons of ******* in this county: me and that ****** C.O. Chinn."
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