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Originally Posted by ambient
No, we should not be idiots and make some rules to balance rights versus negative outcomes.
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How are we being "idiots" by banning new technology just because criminals might use it..
How about we ban cars criminals use them.
How about we ban cellphones criminals them.
How about we ban laptops criminals them.
How about we ban airplanes criminals them.
How about we ban the internet criminal it.
Those rules can never be enforced...You do understand that right?
What is the negative outcome of this?
What is a bigger negative outcome one or two criminals getting a gun from this method?(As if they could not get one on the black market already) Or stagnating and retarding technology and the Civil, Natural and Constitutionally protected rights out of fear, lies and stupidity?
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Do you know why driver's licenses and red lights and green lights exist?
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Driving is not a right that is protected in the Constitution.. It could be debated that it is protected to the states to decide under the 9th and 10th Amendment.
But hey great non-sequitur.
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Hint: it's because when everyone exercises their "freedom" to drive however they want, including the young and the blind, bad stuff happens.
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its a privilege to drive, its a right to keep and bear arms...
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Not every single rule is going to "take away all your freedom," and some limitation of freedom is normal and good. That's why we live in a society that makes rules to manage such things as opposed to a cave or a jungle.
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No, limitations on freedom that are based on lies, myth, opinion, and personal bigotry are never a good thing.
We have rules they are found in this great thing called the Constitution They are called the Bill Of Rights here are the ones that protect our right to keep and bear arms and by extensions all other rights.
The 2nd Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The 9th Amendment
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The 10th Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
The powers that are delegated to the United States by the Constitution are found in Article 1 and Section 8. and are the following
he Delegated Powers are as follows:[2]
"The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, [in order] to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
.To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
.To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
.To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization;
.To establish uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
.To coin [not print] Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin;
.To fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
.To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
.To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
.To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
.To constitute Tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
.To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
.To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
.To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
.To provide and maintain a Navy;
.To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
.To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
.To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
.To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings.
So in short this is the story. We the people of this free nation have the right to keep and bear arms in order to keep ourselves live and free and our nation free for all enemies both foreign and domestic.
We have that right and the Federal Government and the State Government can not strip it away or limit it.
They can not limit it or strip it away because they dont have the power to..
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If everyone has the freedom to do absolutely anything and everything, then you're back to a bunch of apes swinging from trees.
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Really? You know up until about 100 years ago we were for the most part completely free..And guess what we did not all die because we can pick our out light bulbs and the Federal Government was not controlling every last thing.
"I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air -- that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave."-H. L. Mencken
"it is better for a man to go wrong in freedom than to go right in chains."- Thomas Henry Huxley
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"The boisterous sea of liberty is never without a wave.".Thomas Jefferson
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It always impresses me when I have to explain very elementary concepts of civilization to conservatives.
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It disturb me when I have to explain the very elementary concept of Liberty to leftist..
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