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Old 07-28-2014, 03:41 PM
 
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I'm just blown away by the $3,000/month public assistance apartments for 4 people when over 15,000 are still waiting for housing.
I'm blown away people blow 36 grand a year in rent.
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:51 PM
 
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Sounds like a really interesting experiment. Will the kids growing up in this break out of the cycle of poverty if they grow up around higher earners and better performing schools? A major waste of money, to be sure, but they could probably get some grant funding with university researchers to see how this changes the family dynamic.
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Old 07-28-2014, 04:37 PM
 
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Sounds like a really interesting experiment. Will the kids growing up in this break out of the cycle of poverty if they grow up around higher earners and better performing schools? A major waste of money, to be sure, but they could probably get some grant funding with university researchers to see how this changes the family dynamic.
Already been done. Memphis gave out vouchers to move people out of the projects and into better parts of town and better schools. Instead of helping those kids succeed, it increased the crime across the city and ruined middle class schools. The people who truly hoped to improve their lives were caught in the same problems that plagued them in the projects. And the middle class neighborhoods with hard working people were ruined. This is a great read, it really helps you understand the issue and it's real world effects:
American Murder Mystery - Hanna Rosin - The Atlantic
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Old 07-28-2014, 05:29 PM
 
Location: California
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Sounds like a really interesting experiment. Will the kids growing up in this break out of the cycle of poverty if they grow up around higher earners and better performing schools? A major waste of money, to be sure, but they could probably get some grant funding with university researchers to see how this changes the family dynamic.
Are kids involved here? I didn't read that but I saw speculation that they may be elderly who need accessible housing. I can see that in a way, especially if there is a critical lack of it where it's needed most.

I'd rather have simple, safe, accessible housing be the norm though. It makes more financial sense, and just sense in general since everyone can live in accessible housing. Everything new should be designed to allow aging in place.
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Old 07-28-2014, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Are kids involved here? I didn't read that but I saw speculation that they may be elderly who need accessible housing. I can see that in a way, especially if there is a critical lack of it where it's needed most.

I'd rather have simple, safe, accessible housing be the norm though. It makes more financial sense, and just sense in general since everyone can live in accessible housing. Everything new should be designed to allow aging in place.
The identities of the reciepients have not been disclosed.
Almost 50 % of voucher recipients are elderly andor disabled.
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Old 07-28-2014, 05:43 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Finally. Put the welfare folks in the neighborhoods of the rich who claim to love them. Every millionaire should have a poor has hell ghetto welfare queen as a neighbor.
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Old 07-28-2014, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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What happens when their hooligan grandchildren come to stay with them? This happened quite a bit. I'm sure you are aware of the Memphis study that showed crime followed Section 8 residents?
Leases specify the names and number of occupants. If the proverbial boat load of grand kids showed for an extended stay, management would be all over it.

This is a doorman building with 24/7 security.

Given almost 50% of Section 8 recipients are elderly and/ or disabled, how likely are they to be involved in crime?

Btw, the majority of recipients are white.
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:48 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Anti-poor propaganda? Did someone hit a nerve?
Nope just go thru all the threads, what do you see? Mostly anti-poor propaganda or obama sucks!
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:17 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I lived in Des Moines and always wondered how people with a restricted income lived in the nicest apartments in town.
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:41 PM
 
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Gee don't you guys ever get tired of your antipoor propaganda? Your worse then the race hate groups. Whats next for a thread? "Poor man jaywalked, police citted the poor jaywalker, OMG! we are using taxpayer money to pay for the cop and the sidewalk for the poor jaywalker.
conservatives never get tired of it. conservatives are convinced that poor people are the problem. conservatives hate poor people.
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