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Conservatives do not understand that not everyone has the ability to better themselves but they will continue to blame the poor because they are afraid they will one day be poor.
Please explain how this is the case? It doesn't take much effort to better yourself. And how does a fear of being poor one day make one blame poor people? What is wrong with expecting people to at least make a real effort to carry their own weight?
By the way, charity isn't just a liberal or conservative thing, so people need to stop with that crap. Both sides can be quite charitable, at least in my experience. Just more partisan garbage spewing.
Conservatives do not understand that not everyone has the ability to better themselves but they will continue to blame the poor because they are afraid they will one day be poor.
Actually everyone has the ability. There are many programs to help people go to college or trade school who are poor. People who keep making babies they can't afford just don't want to work and want welfare.
People earning $100k/yr and up, with professional careers, do not want low-income people as neighbors - usually for good reason.
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Originally Posted by lenniel
You can take a person out of the ghetto but can you take the ghetto out of a person?
No truer words.
As a former landlord, I would fear my better tenants would move - unless the low-income tenants are REALLY stellar in their appearance, behavior andtheir associations.
Which was not my experience. Low income/ghetto originating people bring the trash with them, generally. No matter how good they are, they know people who aren't - and sooner or later it results in disaster.
I rented to hard-working formerly inner-city black girl. She was great. Rent on time, 10 years on the job w/a major insurance company. Stellar tenant for five years - until one day, her ex-boyfriend murdered her sister in the apartment and left the body there to rot for three days while he kidnapped my tenant and drove around town with her in the trunk of his car. True story. In all our papers. (Cops did finally catch him after someone reported seeing him in a movie theatre)
When neither tenant nor sister were heard from after a couple of days, their brothers called me to come over. Our keys didn't work - she'd changed the locks. When I left, brothers broke a window and found sister's body on LR floor in my building. I was then called at work that same night by my son when the police called our house. I was a night supervisor in a law firm. Sent my son over there to meet the cops. All my good tenants left after that incident. I sold the building 18 months later.
I would be REALLY ticked off if I owned a high-end building and was required to rent to low-income people. I would never do it voluntarily.
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People earning $100k/yr and up, with professional careers, do not want low-income people as neighbors - usually for good reason.
No truer words.
As a former landlord, I would fear my better tenants would move - unless the low-income tenants are REALLY stellar in their appearance, behavior andtheir associations.
Which was not my experience. Low income/ghetto originating people bring the trash with them, generally. No matter how good they are, they know people who aren't - and sooner or later it results in disaster.
I rented to hard-working formerly inner-city black girl. She was great. Rent on time, 10 years on the job w/a major insurance company. Stellar tenant for five years - until one day, her ex-boyfriend murdered her sister in the apartment and left the body there to rot for three days while he kidnapped my tenant and drove around town with her in the trunk of his car. True story. In all our papers. (Cops did finally catch him after someone reported seeing him in a movie theatre)
When neither tenant nor sister were heard from after a couple of days, their brothers called me to come over. Our keys didn't work - she'd changed the locks. When I left, brothers broke a window and found sister's body on LR floor in my building. I was then called at work that same night by my son when the police called our house. I was a night supervisor in a law firm. Sent my son over there to meet the cops. All my good tenants left after that incident. I sold the building 18 months later.
I would be REALLY ticked off if I owned a high-end building and was required to rent to low-income people. I would never do it voluntarily.
I have heard similar tales occur in various places that were not "formerly inner-city black girls" . Horrible crimes occur in this country on a daily basis and not just to "low income/ghetto originating people."
Also, no landlord is required to rent to Section 8 tenants. They choose to do so and most do because it is "guaranteed" rent and they can also inflate their monthly rental fees to a higher amount since the government will pick up the tab.
Actually everyone has the ability. There are many programs to help people go to college or trade school who are poor. People who keep making babies they can't afford just don't want to work and want welfare.
And the rich want welfare to make more profit, eventhou they had record profits the last few year. If they don't get it they will leave america. No laziness there!
Chicago poor people have to ask themselves does having a job really worth it? People might think getting 180 a month on a food card, a Obamaphone, and free health care Medicaid, they are better off not working. All they need is some ones basement to live in or a couch to sleep on. People that are on the dole should not be living in high end apartments and homes, if the ghetto is all they can afford that is where they belong.
Redev is paid for by taxpayers, going on everywhere. CAF had some very interesting observations while she was at HUD.
Redev at work. Goldman's Tax-Free Building Loan Makes LibertyBonds
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Two-bedroom apartments at 63 Wall Street and 90 West Street, financed with Liberty Bonds, are renting for $4,200 a month. Another building financed with the bonds, at 2 Gold Street, is renting three-bedroom units for $5,400 a month.
The article only mentions 4 vouchers. Many of the owners of these properties are real estate investment companies. Can track them back to bank holding companies, most likely.
quote from OP article:
But HUD allowed the CHA to change its rules in 2010, pushing the cap up to 300 percent in designated “opportunity areas,” such as downtown and Lakeview, where poverty is low and subsidized housing is scarce.
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Some building owners are happy for the business. Justin Elliott, principal at Chicago-based Marc Realty Residential, has few complaints after the CHA approved supervouchers for 36 leases this year and last in a 96-unit building Marc owned at 2300 S. Michigan Ave. Marc recently sold the building, which had the most supervouchers by far among all properties, according to the CHA.
Please explain how this is the case? It doesn't take much effort to better yourself. And how does a fear of being poor one day make one blame poor people? What is wrong with expecting people to at least make a real effort to carry their own weight?
By the way, charity isn't just a liberal or conservative thing, so people need to stop with that crap. Both sides can be quite charitable, at least in my experience. Just more partisan garbage spewing.
Yes it does take a lot of effort it takes money it takes having a certain amount of intelligence and ability.If ii was that easy we would see a lot more people doing it. As long as you are working you are carrying your own weight.
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. Horrible crimes occur in this country on a daily basis and not just to "low income/ghetto originating people." 
