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I think it may very well be airborne....they say it isnt and its easily explained that the protocol was breeched and the infected touched bodily fluids....
I think the medical staff knows not to touch fluids and did not touch bodily fluids, but the WHO and the CDC still insist its only bodily fluids....
Airborne is my guess too.
I don't think it's airborne, but I do think the multiple layers of clothing needing to be removed is just begging for trouble. I realize it's hot in a real level 4 hazmat suit, but couldn't they have some kind of cooling system in there with the ventilation system? Better to remove one layer of suit and duct tape than to remove four pairs of gloves, a hair piece, a face mask, two or three aprons, etc. It's no wonder there are breaches when removing the stuff.
If it were airborne we'd be looking at a lot more than 1 case, and there's no way Lagos would have been able to contain and stop the spread of Ebola as quickly and effectively as they did.
Lagos contained it by stopping more cases from arriving in their country, something our own government says is impossible even though we're thousands of miles away and Nigeria is right next door.
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It appears you have not read any of the Ebola threads. The health care workers in Africa are battling the disease with inadequate facilities and supplies. It is very easy to contaminate yourself when removing the protective gear. For some, there is no gear. For others, gear is a gown, goggles, mask, rubber boots, and Playtex Living Gloves. They can get contaminated while removing the gear --- even better gear such as would be available in the US.
This nursing student made do with plastic bags and a raincoat while nursing four family members, three of whom survived.
Suzy, what difference does it make if it's airborne or spread by aerosol? It's a very similar thing. If I'm sitting in a room with a person infected with Ebola and he sneezes and it aerosolizes Ebola and tiny particulates then get in my eyes, nose, or mouth, or on a surface that I touch and then touch my eyes, nose or mouth, does it matter whether it was "airborne" or "aerosol"? From my understanding, cold and flu virus are also basically spread by aerosol. I've even read how they believe cold weather really does matter in transmission of cold or flu because the particulates blown out by a sneeze or whatever float higher in a dry, cold environment, while hot, humid air pushes the virus down. Who knows if that study was right, but it was an attempt to explain how colds and flus seem to spread more easily in the winter months.
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Once the danger was realized, travelers from the affected areas should have been banned forthwith. But no, in the name of politican correctness and globalism, borders remain wide open to this day with only laughably ineffective measures hitherto effected to prevent more Ebola carriers from entering our country. Tom Frieden should be arrested and prosecuted for being a total sell-out to the powerful globalist open borders lobby and for putting these special interests ahead of his duties. This failed president should be summarily impeached and removed from office. If we had anything resembling a real democracy, this should be the final nail in the coffin for globalism, but my prediction is it will not be.
^^^^I agree. Tom Frieden and the guy at the NIH have both been horrible. The absolute worst people are in charge right now, and I even blame them more than our president. It would be nice though if the "smartest president we've ever had" could at least think critically and stop travel against these two d-bags' advice.
Of course they are. Thy tried to check out the the Ebola Rule Book from the library but someone else beat them to it.
There are reasons why no country outside of Africa has banned travel from the 3 infected countries.
It would be swell to hear the rational. I would be very surprised if the rational had diddly to do with the CDC.
We live in a global society now, but at least Russia has taken the precaution of quarantining people traveling from these countries. And I haven't heard diddly about China, but I suspect they're quarantining too. The rest of the nations will follow our lead, and we're not leading. If only we said we should ban travel to all but essential personnel to these nations, and those should be quarantined, then all the rest of the countries would follow suit.
Yes, other diseases have or will kill far more people than the meager 4,000 + known Ebola victims (so far), but that doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about a highly contagious disease that in the early stages could be stopped with good governance. Here's the president's chance to show the country what big government is capable of, and he's blowing it yet again.
Let's see, highly contagious disease showing exponential growth potential with a 50% mortality rate. Nope, nothing to worry about! Lets worry about obesity or tobacco instead!
It's amazing isn't it? Whenever NRA types point out how many children are killed in automobile accidents or unattended swimming pools, they come back with response that we can worry about more than one thing at a time, but now they're doing the same thing. Apples and oranges people!
Suzy, what difference does it make if it's airborne or spread by aerosol? It's a very similar thing. If I'm sitting in a room with a person infected with Ebola and he sneezes and it aerosolizes Ebola and tiny particulates then get in my eyes, nose, or mouth, or on a surface that I touch and then touch my eyes, nose or mouth, does it matter whether it was "airborne" or "aerosol"? From my understanding, cold and flu virus are also basically spread by aerosol. I've even read how they believe cold weather really does matter in transmission of cold or flu because the particulates blown out by a sneeze or whatever float higher in a dry, cold environment, while a hot, humid air pushes the virus down. Who knows if that study was right, but it was an attempt to explain how colds and flus seem to spread more easily in the winter months.
The distinction is important because it confirms that you catch Ebola by being physically close to someone who has it and coming in contact with body fluids, not just by breathing the same air.
The distinction is important because it confirms that you catch Ebola by being physically close to someone who has it and coming in contact with body fluids, not just by breathing the same air.
I thought the only different might be that if it's really airborne I could catch measles being in the next room to a measles ward and sharing the same air system. So I couldn't catch Ebola being next door, but if I was in the same room and that person sneezed all over surfaces (assuming it's even transferrable at that early stage), then it really doesn't matter if it's airborne or aerosol since I still could get it in particulates floating through the air or by touching surfaces (including my own self) and then touching my eyes, nose, or mouth.
Based on this article, do you guys believe that we are going to have Ebola epidemic here in the United States?
Please DO watch the video and READ the article.
I honestly believe Government (CDC) should do a better job in term of protecting those who work in the medical field. (The emergency room doctors and nurses, etc)
I don't mean to pretend to be a Military expert, I am not. But I am under the impression that the military special force guys are protected by five level of MOPP gear if they have to go to a dangerous zone. Do you think medical doctors and nurses should be receiving the exact same protection?
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