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View Poll Results: Should we stop sending people/aid to Ebola infected nations?
Yes 92 42.59%
No 95 43.98%
Other 17 7.87%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 216. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-09-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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Two Spanish priests received zmapp and both died.
There seems to be a lot more to recovery than just getting that drug.
Timing could be a big part as well as how your own body reacts to the virus.
most likely the early (pre-human) trials in rats were limited to presymptomatic doses, and were promising. all of the people who have received zmapp so far were well into the symptomatic stages, and some pulled thru, some didn't.

 
Old 10-09-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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The job of the CDC is to lie to the people, so it does not cause a panic. Period.

We are not being told anything, so the panic doesn't spread....


Look at the airport workers on strike over it. Panic is starting to gain ground.
Just ask the Bots, people can't stop the Ebolites from coming to this country because Customs officials can't read passpirt stamps or booking data.

Yes, the Bots are so crazy that they spout Obama administration talking points even at the risk of American lives.
 
Old 10-09-2014, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Duncan did lie though as the Liberian questionnaire just asked if he was in contact with anyone that was sick.
That questionnaire has been posted on the net from that African site (which I can't find now).
Yeah, I saw it , too.

Doing the devil's advocate thing, here. He helped a pregnant woman who collapsed. Given what's going on in Monrovia, one would think he would not have gone near her, had he known she was sick. Did he and others assume, perhaps a spontaneous late term abortion was in progress?

On the otherhand, it would seem reasonable for anyone in that environment to assume that any sort of distress was likely Ebola related. Or does denial of the possibility of Ebola prevent people from accepting the reality?
 
Old 10-09-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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There's definitely an economic impact here.
Look at the costs to "isolate".

Imagine the cost to Frisco regarding the deputy ?
The loss to the clinic (they are still closed).

But it's a domestic cost.
Yes, indeed. That's why sending the resources to that region to contain it there is the better value.
 
Old 10-09-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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So money is more important than lives?
No. That's why sending the resources to the affected region is the best course of action. Containing the outbreak there SAVES lives.
 
Old 10-09-2014, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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It's hard to say without more facts. But if me Duncan had been more truthful on his customs form he could have been monitored and treated sooner.
I don't think so.

He would have been denied the flight and died in Liberia.
 
Old 10-09-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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Wouldn't it be a b*itch for the World Health Organization if it turned out that colloidal silver was an effective cure-treatment for ebola?

The CDC wouldn't like it.

The NIH wouldn't like it.

Big Pharma wouldn't like it.
Known Since 1998

Indeed, one 1998 study published in the Journal of Hospital Infections was titled “Ventilation grilles as a potential source of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus causing an outbreak in an orthopaedic ward at a district general hospital.”

Apparently, the newly airborne MRSA pathogens can even colonize the ventilation grilles in hospital rooms, and literally be spread further throughout the rooms whenever the heat or air conditioning comes on – even enough to cause an outbreak of MRSA infections!

So to summarize: the pathogen becomes airborne when hospital staff begin moving things around in a hospital room.

Colloidal Silver and Airborne MRSA Pathogens
http://www.nutrasilver.com/downloads...abs-report.pdf
 
Old 10-09-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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First of all it's an estimate based on computer modeling, not an actual body count.
Estimating Seasonal Influenza-Associated Deaths in the United States: CDC Study Confirms Variability of Flu | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

And they have been reporting 36,000. Where are you getting your "hundreds of thousands" from ?
That 36,000 was modeled back in 1999.
Newer models using the same data have changed that to 23,000.
Estimates of Deaths Associated with Seasonal Influenza --- United States, 1976--2007

I put that 36,000 annual flu deaths right up there with the 11 million illegals.
Same numbers for over a decade and they never change.
Are you using flu deaths just from the United States, and not including the rest of the world?
 
Old 10-09-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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I wonder if Ebola is actually an Airborne disease.

or maybe carried by mosquitoes..??? me thinks they are not telling the whole truth...
 
Old 10-09-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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Just ask the Bots, people can't stop the Ebolites from coming to this country because Customs officials can't read passpirt stamps or booking data.

Yes, the Bots are so crazy that they spout Obama administration talking points even at the risk of American lives.
Funny how you like to use the word Bots all the time yet you sound like one so often yourself by repeating the same nonsense over and over. Go Figure, I guess the saying it takes one to know one is true after all.
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