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Old 10-13-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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Now the cdc is blaming the health care worker. Classic. They are also targeting her dog now.
What do you mean by "blaming"?

 
Old 10-13-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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Default The Centers for Disease Control Loses Its Grip

The lies and nonsense coming out of some of you is astounding, all veiled in the guise of common-sense, and always defending this president and his decisions. Oh, maybe you give him a little slap on the wrist, but then you people go back to deriding the rest of us who wonder what the hell is going on in this country.

This article from Paul A. Rahe perfectly encapsulates what most Americans, even a lot of you Democrats are thinking about Obama and the CDC...except you die hard sycophants.

"I have lived long enough, now, to have seen it again and again. Something goes badly wrong involving a corporation, a university, a religious denomination, or a branch of government, and the executive in charge or a designated minion goes before the press to engage in what is euphemistically called “damage control.” The spokesman does not level with the public. He or she tries to be reassuring and — more often than not — by lying, succeeds in undermining confidence in the institution he or she represents.

This is what is now going on with the Centers for Disease Control. In recent years, this well-respected outfit has branched out, opining in a politically correct manner on one issue after another outside its proper remit. Now it is faced with a matter absolutely central to its responsibilities — actual disease control — and it flips and flops and flounders because the ultimate boss, the President of the United States, cannot bring himself to put limits on contacts between Americans and the citizens of the countries in Africa where there is an Ebola epidemic."

The Centers for Disease Control Loses Its Grip | Ricochet
 
Old 10-13-2014, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Now the cdc is blaming the health care worker. Classic. They are also targeting her dog now.
I am watching the press conference right now and CDC has gone out of his way to not blame the hospital employee and keep the focus on process.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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When you actually know something about the Ebola mechanism of death, it's hard to say it's "overhyped". This ins't "the flu".

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“He becomes dizzy and utterly weak, and his spine goes limp and nerveless and he loses all sense of balance. The room is turning around and around. He is going into shock. He leans over, head on his knees, and brings up an incredible quantity of blood from his stomach and spills it onto the floor with a gasping groan. He loses consciousness and pitches forward onto the floor. The only sound is a choking in his throat as he continues to vomit blood and black matter while unconscious. Then comes a sound like a bedsheet being torn in half, which is the sound of his bowels opening and venting blood from the anus. The blood is mixed with intestinal lining. He has sloughed his gut. The linings of his intestines have come off and are being expelled along with huge amounts of blood. Monet has crashed and is bleeding out.”
― Richard Preston, The Hot Zone
 
Old 10-13-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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In short "Break in Protocol" means we don't know WTF happened.
You are right, this is the catchall phrase. I don't recall reading anything that confirms the nurse breached "protocol".

This is the same story for the NBC cameraman who became infected.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Now the cdc is blaming the health care worker. Classic. They are also targeting her dog now.
Some higher ups aren't happy with this guy playing the blame game:

U.S. CDC head criticized for blaming 'protocol breach' as nurse gets Ebola
 
Old 10-13-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What do you mean by "blaming"?
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You are right, this is the catchall phrase. I don't recall reading anything that confirms the nurse breached "protocol".

This is the same story for the NBC cameraman who became infected.
Yes, a buzz phrase that implies these people did something wrong.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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The CDC is utterly failing us. It has the blood of the thousands of Americans who have died from Ebola on its hands.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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Suispeciecide.

It just takes social cooperation.
Or cluelessness.

Many, if not most people cannot fathom the level of evil that exists all around them, and they certainly don't consider the possibility of such evil being in position to implement such evil on a broad scale. Nevertheless, for the naive, they need to check out the comments of Dr. Charles Arnzten when asked about overpopulation. Dr. Arntzen is the head of the Biodesign Institute for Infectious Diseases. He joked about the movie "Contagion" in response to overpopulation.

Of course, one might like to consider the mindset of those in the profession of bioengineering and microbiology, which includes those who create weaponized viruses and bacteria for the defense department, who don't seem to lose any sleep over testing those concoctions on the thousands of animals for whom they inflict unspeakable suffering and misery, with not an iota of compassion.

Normal people could never do such dastardly things, but these people are anything but normal. And if you think that such a mindset can't rationalize using their expertise for the "greater good" and the distasteful but necessary reduction of the population which is in need of an "adjustment" to more sustainable levels, you'd better think again. Their numbers are alarming, and their positions to make good on these hypothetical scenarios more real than hypothetical.

Yes, there are people actively engineering viruses like Ebola to increase their potency and infection rate capability under the guise of defense against potential future bioterrorism. Aside the insanity of doing these things to begin with, can these people be trusted from either a competency or compassion standpoint?

It rarely occurrs to anyone to ask why and how these crisises just appear out of thin air. Oh no ... those vaccines that were deployed last month have no connection to these coincidental outbreaks of infectious disease. No ... the HIV virus was not introduced into the gay population in San Francisco via Hep-B vaccine ... that's just a conspiracy theory. The spread of HIV across the African continent wasn't facilitated through the mass vaccination programs spearheaded by the World Health Organization. And the rise of cancer rates wasn't caused by cancer viruses existing undetected in the polio vaccines at Merck ... except ... this was admitted by the chief vioroligist at Merck ... Maurice Hilleman, who made jokes about how we might beat the Russians in the next Olympics since those tainted vaccines were administered to the Russian population. He joked that the Russian athletes might become weighed down by tumors, giving the US athletes an advantage.

And they laughed .... hahahaha .... oh so very funny!!! My my ....

Sorry to say ... this isn't a conspiracy theory ... just facts ... as sad as it is, evil seems to be running the world right now, and people had better wake up.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 10:37 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Some higher ups aren't happy with this guy playing the blame game:

U.S. CDC head criticized for blaming 'protocol breach' as nurse gets Ebola
First the Ebolists do nothing to prevent ebola from coming to the us then they blame people for getting it. You can't make this stuff up.
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