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Old 08-08-2014, 01:31 AM
 
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How is it "self centered to not want to bring one of the worlds deadliest diseases to our nation?
It's pretty easy to contain if the right measures are taken. Every time you hear of an epidemic spreading it's because the carrier (patient 0) went undetected prior to quarantine. There is a chicken pox epidemic going on at one of the federal facilities housing illegal immigrants, but they quarantined the whole place. If they knew who was infected they could have just quarantined the sick people before the disease spread.

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I don't think it's self centered. If we have to bring them here to help them...so be it. Why are you so afraid of everything. You want a gun to protect yourself because you are so afraid. A lot of us are not that paranoid. We can give them the best medical care.
Maybe, but the USA bans people from returning if the catch certain diseases. I'm pretty sure we still do that to service members.
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:58 AM
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Once some Conservatives are scared enough, using the power of government to constrain individual liberties is suddenly hunky-dory. Fascinating, innit?
Good point. It isn't conservatism, then - it's abject self-centered self-motivation. It shines a light on that part of the right-wing perspective that is based on despicable human behaviors toward others, going hand-in-glove with the scurrilous comments earlier deriding missionaries.

This is why the word "conservative" really has no place being used to describe right-wing politics in our nation. There are no conservatives left in power. They've all been run out of town with the RINO stick. All that's left in charge of the right-wing are selfish prigs.
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Old 08-08-2014, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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They're both funny in that snarky, mean-spirited way they have. Did you know they're longtime friends? I find that people who agree with someone's opinions will find their jokes funny, while not finding other people's jokes funny at all if they're of a different political persuasion.

Oh, and both are definitely doing it to try to reach their audiences and sell books/documentaries/advertising/themselves.
I'm a die hard conservative. I don't think Coulter is funny at all. Maher I do. Coulters audience is the republicans. Mahers audience isn't party related nearly as much.
I never knew they were friends but I don't get the celebrity friendship. Not that I know what their friendship is like but it seems like an acquaintance is called a friend too often imo.
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Old 08-08-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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How is it "self centered to not want to bring one of the worlds deadliest diseases to our nation?
It was brought here under very controlled circumstances. That is not the issue, as one Doctor stated the cat is already out of the bag and the odds that it can be contained and kept from moving to Europe and the Americas are slim to none, too many people have travelled to the area and the area is widening quickly, we have Americans all over the African continent and there is no way they will be able to ensure it does not make it here. Ebola is not that easy to pick up, it takes bodily fluid exchange to do so, they cannot simply cough and those around them get it. The Civilized Nations have better facilities, the people are not ignorant of the medical field as they are in some parts of Africa where people are afraid to go to the hospital and the odds of it effecting a large portion of the population are really very small. We are in far more danger from strains of the Flue which kills Millions on a regular basis than something like Ebola, yet I do not see the same level of panic with them.
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Old 08-08-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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It was brought here under very controlled circumstances. That is not the issue, as one Doctor stated the cat is already out of the bag and the odds that it can be contained and kept from moving to Europe and the Americas are slim to none, too many people have travelled to the area and the area is widening quickly, we have Americans all over the African continent and there is no way they will be able to ensure it does not make it here. Ebola is not that easy to pick up, it takes bodily fluid exchange to do so, they cannot simply cough and those around them get it. The Civilized Nations have better facilities, the people are not ignorant of the medical field as they are in some parts of Africa where people are afraid to go to the hospital and the odds of it effecting a large portion of the population are really very small. We are in far more danger from strains of the Flue which kills Millions on a regular basis than something like Ebola, yet I do not see the same level of panic with them.
flu just doesn't have the scary 'ick' factor that bleeding to death out of all orifices does.

in related news,

West Africa's Ebola epidemic is an "extraordinary event" and now constitutes an international health risk, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Friday.
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Old 08-08-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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flu just doesn't have the scary 'ick' factor that bleeding to death out of all orifices does.

in related news,

West Africa's Ebola epidemic is an "extraordinary event" and now constitutes an international health risk, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Friday.
True it doesn't, but it is far more of a danger to the population than Ebola, a few Thousand deaths compared to Millions of dead. Now if Ebola or something like it were to ever mutate to become airborne then we as a species would be in serious danger of become a thing of the past history of the planet.
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Old 08-08-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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True it doesn't, but it is far more of a danger to the population than Ebola, a few Thousand deaths compared to Millions of dead. Now if Ebola or something like it were to ever mutate to become airborne then we as a species would be in serious danger of become a thing of the past history of the planet.
Nah, we have a vaccine coming thanks to DoD funding and a Canadian Pharma company.
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Old 08-08-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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Nah, we have a vaccine coming thanks to DoD funding and a Canadian Pharma company.
If it mutates, the vaccine, which is not quit there yet, would probably become useless, just as happens with the flue, that is why flue vaccines cover multiple strains but often do not cover the latest version going around.
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Old 08-08-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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If it mutates, the vaccine, which is not quit there yet, would probably become useless, just as happens with the flue, that is why flue vaccines cover multiple strains but often do not cover the latest version going around.
This is going to be a super-vaccine.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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This is going to be a super-vaccine.
No such animal, there is no way to build a vaccine that kills a virus that has not even developed yet, each vaccine is built for a specific virus or set of viruses, anything that comes after the vaccine is developed may or may not be affected.
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