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Originally Posted by texan2yankee
What will become of our native unskilled workers in the future? One thing we do know is giving amnesty to 30 million, new, unskilled illegal immigrants will only exacerbate the problem facing our native born low-skilled workers in the future.
Well, the huge loss in domestic manufacturing jobs is why "illegals" are perceived as such a threat in the first place, especially among blue collar workers. Until we shipped so much of it overseas, 'manufacturing' absorbed most of the "low-end" of the labor market in this country.
And nowadays, even before the "robots" have taken over, we can already see what happens to millions of unskilled workers with little educ-macation or current tech training. "Rust Belt" cities were simply the "preview".
Although having a huge chunk of the population always "on the dole" is probably going to be a growing trend all over the westernized world. And it'll be to the point that most everyone will be able to rely on some sort of "social safety net" if they choose, and are willing to "lower their expectations" (as well as find some scapegoat to "blame"). Meanwhile as ever, the remaining ones with the ambition, education and initiative will always find ways to rise above it.
If I was young I would look into drone and robot repair. I wonder in the very near future if we will see ads on TV for that type of training like we do with auto repair, etc. Just think of how much a person would be worth that could fix any problem on a robot on site.
They are called Technicians, I was one at one time. Many later go on to get their Engineering Degree and design the robots and drones for military and civilian use. Yes, one has a secure future if they gain a skill that fulfills a need, especially one that will not only be secure today but will also last a lifetime.
Russia is so worried about declining birth rates that they outlawed homosexuality and are encouraging marriage. I'm not sure what their stance is on abortion at this time, but I do remember a few years ago seeing a report about the number of abortions women in Russia have. It was common for a woman to have not one but three, four, five, etc. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Russia has outlawed abortion.
During the 2000s, Russia's steadily falling population (due to both negative birthrates and low life expectancy) became a major source of concern, forcing the military to curtail conscription due to shortages of young males. In 2011, Russian passed a law restricting abortion to the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, with an exception up to 22 weeks if the pregnancy was the result of rape, and for medical necessity.
Despite a significant reduction in the abortion to birth ratio since the 90's, the countries of the former Soviet Union maintain the highest rate of abortions in the world.
The populations in developed counties are all declining if it were not for immigration.
You must think the ruling elite really love and care about peasants.
Well, what's the other solution then? You really think the government is just going to let masses of Americans starve and die in the streets? At some point things will come to a head.
It is for many. America has to create conditions for employment at ALL levels. Otherwise it will cost us more in many ways. Keeping high employment rates is vital for our future, regardless of technological progress.
Well, we could eliminate all wage and labor laws and compete with the third world. That our standard of living would also substantially decline is another story.
Seems to me that many of those who advocate for elimination of wage/labor laws seem to hold the perception that their employment/lifestyle would somehow not be impacted.
Regardless of what is or is not done going forward, the US is long overdue for as serious adjustment in the standard of living.
Ever seen the slums in the third world countries? Coming soon to a city near you.
They can sit around and complain and live in the 3rd world slums or improve their skills. It's their choice. No one can inject knowledge and skill into their brains.
Well, the huge loss in domestic manufacturing jobs is why "illegals" are perceived as such a threat in the first place, especially among blue collar workers. Until we shipped so much of it overseas, 'manufacturing' absorbed most of the "low-end" of the labor market in this country.
And nowadays, even before the "robots" have taken over, we can already see what happens to millions of unskilled workers with little educ-macation or current tech training. "Rust Belt" cities were simply the "preview".
Although having a huge chunk of the population always "on the dole" is probably going to be a growing trend all over the westernized world. And it'll be to the point that most everyone will be able to rely on some sort of "social safety net" if they choose, and are willing to "lower their expectations" (as well as find some scapegoat to "blame"). Meanwhile as ever, the remaining ones with the ambition, education and initiative will always find ways to rise above it.
There are some blue-collared jobs that can't be outsourced such as construction, restaurant jobs, landscaping, etc. Illegal aliens have flooded those industries.
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