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Not defending anything, it's simply the reality of things in today's economy, and lotsa luck to anyone claiming "entitlement" to any job, simply because of an accident of birth (aka, being a "native").
Although since it obviously annoys you, then we both understand that the low-end of the economy (aka, 'rednecks') has never placed much value on "education" anyway (aka, "liberal elites", or the black equivalent, "acting white"). And stubbornly defending those particular "values" is certainly their prerogative, but that kinda attitude has always come with a high price and the constant threat of 'competion', especially nowadays in a global market that increasingly depends on 'continuous learning'.
Accident of birth? FYI, any country's citizens do have rights over foreingers especially those here illegally and rightly so! Today's so-called economy does not give employers the right to hire illegal aliens. It's against the law!
Rednecks have nothing to do with our right to enforce our immigration laws. We have no global market that trumps our immigration laws either. Whether or not someone educates themselves is irrelevant to the illegal immigration problem also. Employers simply want to increase their profits and aren't doing it lawfully. Would you call American blue-collared workers dumb? No, they like working with their hands and those jobs use to pay a fair wage until millions of illegal aliens flooded our borders. Yeah, you're not defending that though, right MATEO?
There are some blue-collared jobs that can't be outsourced such as construction, restaurant jobs, landscaping, etc. Illegal aliens have flooded those industries.
Let's turn this around, shall we. Employers recruit those who are ready, willing and able to perform low skill jobs for less compensation. The employer makes more and the end result costs the consumer less. It's circular.
Employers have been importing cheap labor for over 100 years. The demand lessened during the Great Depression and the Great Recession.
Illegal immigration became a tidal wave in the 80's and peaked in the mid 2000's with the housing boom.
Who built/renovated/ expanded the tens of millions of houses, commercial and municipal structures during the housing boom?
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Accident of birth? FYI, any country's citizens do have rights over foreingers especially those here illegally and rightly so! Today's so-called economy does not give employers the right to hire illegal aliens. It's against the law!
Rednecks have nothing to do with our right to enforce our immigration laws. We have no global market that trumps our immigration laws either. Whether or not someone educates themselves is irrelevant to the illegal immigration problem also. Employers simply want to increase their profits and aren't doing it lawfully. Would you call American blue-collared workers dumb? No, they like working with their hands and those jobs use to pay a fair wage until millions of illegal aliens flooded our borders. Yeah, you're not defending that though, right MATEO?
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Although as a second-gen "I"talian, I'm well aware of prejudice of 'some folks' who always think that they're the "real 'Murikins" (…lol)! Of course from the sound of things, that kinda attitude ain't been working out so well for 'em these days, has it?
The "illegals problem" is merely a "symptom" of the general disrespect for "edu-macation" that's always left the low-end of the US labor market, especially poor whites, much more vulnerable than most. So instead of getting more training, now they just hole up in all these kinda red state "possum hollers", watching the world pass 'em by, while collecting the welfare checks they're "entitled" to…. and blaming "illegals" for picking crops, doing manual labor & service jobs, and generally all the other kinds of hard work that "real 'Murikins" don't wanna compete for anymore.
What will happen as more and more become unemployable ?
Why looting and pillaging will happen, that's what.
The will have to do whatever jobs are available. That will be picking crops and digging coal. They can live in FEMA camps until they either increase their skills or die.
virtual classroom, virtual mall, virtual city (Second Life) already making inroads.
Yes indeed.
We don't need to leave our homes for much of anything, anymore.
So many brick and mortar strip and shopping malls are trending serious vacancies because consumers shop online. Jobs in retail, commercial leasing , commercial property management, security and maintenance are diminishing. There is nothing a municipal, county, state or federal government can do about it. The speed of this evolution is astonishing.
Let's turn this around, shall we. Employers recruit those who are ready, willing and able to perform low skill jobs for less compensation. The employer makes more and the end result costs the consumer less. It's circular.
Employers have been importing cheap labor for over 100 years. The demand lessened during the Great Depression and the Great Recession.
Illegal immigration became a tidal wave in the 80's and peaked in the mid 2000's with the housing boom.
Who built/renovated/ expanded the tens of millions of houses, commercial and municipal structures during the housing boom?
The builders aren't stupid. They only hire a foreman who is a citizen and gives them a bucket of money to go hire their crew.
Those are your day workers from HD. Many of the foreman showed up with vans.
Cash in hand for day work. And they scatter to the four winds when the city/county inspectors show up.
Yeah..everyone turns a blind eye to what's going on. Every once in a while there will be an immigration raid.
Company pays their kickback to Uncle Sam and life goes on.
Artificial intelligence combined with computers, robots and 3D Printing are going to eliminate millions of jobs throughout the world in the next 20 years. What we are seeing now is at best the tip of the iceberg.
The welfare of low skilled people is in directly inverse proportion to the amount of government intervention in the economy.
FYI, any country's citizens do have rights over foreingers especially those here illegally and rightly so! Today's so-called economy does not give employers the right to hire illegal aliens. It's against the law!
Yet, it's been happening for 100 years.
It became a tidal wave in the 80's and peaked in the mid 2000's with the housing bubble.
Any politician that talks about getting tough with those who employ illegals gets tremendous push back from his constituents. So it's easier to blame the Obama and rally around spending $ hundreds of billions a year, building and maintaining fences and employing tens of thousands of incremental border patrol people. Yet, so long as there are jobs, the immigrants will come.
US people have substantially benefited from the employment of undocumented workers all along and then turn around and blame government for the consequences.
Those states with the most substantial illegal populations cannot be bothered to make e-verify the law. Biometrics would make it nearly fraud proof. Some of those states aggressively court business to relocate or expand in their state and cheap labor is the value add.
Those tend to be the same states that seek to add the most jobs building/maintaining fences and paroling borders on the Fed's dime because the state refuses to require employers' to e-verify.
Yes the rich care, they live here with us, and as the inequality increases eventually people will get violent and political. Both have serious risks for the wealthy. You can only influence elections so much with money. Generally if you can move it 5% you can determine winners, but what if you need to move it 10 or 20%? It doesn't matter how much money you spend once you reach a certain point.
Everyone being poor due to automation means that the rich....wont be making money. They really do need money to circulate in the system.
Basic income is not economically reasonable.....today. 5 years from now it may be different, 20 years form now its very doable. And its inevitable.
As technology advances we will become more individually enabling. IE While libertarianism requires a lot of "why yes in a perfect world" today and is incredibly foolish, in the future it will become reasonable. Im looking forward to this.
Yet, it's been happening for 100 years.
It became a tidal wave in the 80's and peaked in the mid 2000's with the housing bubble.
Any politician that talks about getting tough with those who employ illegals gets tremendous push back from his constituents.
Do you consider the special interest groups and the "friendly" courts who collaborate with them to stop enforcement to be "his constituents"?
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