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Old 10-29-2014, 02:08 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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If a student posted a photo of himself with guns on facebook titled "homecoming" hours after a major school schooling - and students and parents expressed concern to the school - yet the school did nothing (perhaps saying "it's private property, what can we do"), and then the student shot up the place killing your child, I'm sure sure you're sue the school in a heartbeat saying it didn't act when it should have.

There's a big news story in Denver right now. There was a school shooting at Arapahoe High School last December. A school employee just leaked a document (the school had been refusing to hand it over) - a report from the Principal and school psychologist about the killer prepared a few months prior to the shootings - where they dismissed concerns about the shooter's violent threats against students and teachers.

Why didn't the school have the police investigate it if they felt that strongly about it? What the school did was overkill!
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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Why didn't the school have the police investigate it if they felt that strongly about it? What the school did was overkill!
Perhaps it was overkill. Perhaps it wasn't. I don't know. I don't know this student's history.

But to say the photo and facebook are private property so the school has no business even looking at it is nutty. To say the school has no duty to look into the incident is nutty.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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Sadly they are,

I'm still waiting to hear what these kooks think an appropriate action might have been had they taken a photo of them shooting real guns in a shooting range...
LOL.. you are right why should I be surprised. Unbelievable...
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:28 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Perhaps it was overkill. Perhaps it wasn't. I don't know. I don't know this student's history.

But to say the photo and facebook are private property so the school has no business even looking at it is nutty. To say the school has no duty to look into the incident is nutty.

And that is the problem. It's attitudes like this and the whole "it takes a village" crap that give the schools all of the power, and the parents have none! I'd tell the school reinstate my kid, or I'd see them in court!
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:29 PM
 
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Perhaps it was overkill. Perhaps it wasn't. I don't know. I don't know this student's history.

But to say the photo and facebook are private property so the school has no business even looking at it is nutty. To say the school has no duty to look into the incident is nutty.
The students history is immaterial.

If the school believed it to be a threat then it should be investigated by the PROPER authorities.

School has absolutely no legal jurisdiction to punish someone for NOT COMMITTING ANY FORM OF ACTION WHICH IS WRONG..
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:35 PM
 
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The students history is immaterial.

If the school believed it to be a threat then it should be investigated by the PROPER authorities.

School has absolutely no legal jurisdiction to punish someone for NOT COMMITTING ANY FORM OF ACTION WHICH IS WRONG..

Damn right it is!
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Perhaps it was overkill. Perhaps it wasn't. I don't know. I don't know this student's history.

But to say the photo and facebook are private property so the school has no business even looking at it is nutty. To say the school has no duty to look into the incident is nutty.
Actually all this emotional hysteria about privacy and overreaching does not apply. The photo was posted on site connected to the school. They had every right in the world to react the way they did to this photo and posting.

If anyone had posted a "joke" photo of planes hitting a building right after 9/11, I'm pretty sure the same people whining about this would have been outraged.

"But defending his decision to suspend the students, Superintendent Richard Gross said: 'It has nothing to do with free speech. Their behavior caused a significant disruption in the school'

'We had our homecoming event on Friday and following that the students were looking at Facebook and, of course, it caused a tumult in the building.'

He added that the photo had been uploaded to an online album titled 'Homecoming 2014', meaning it was directly 'tied' to one of the school's events."

It comes just days after teenager Jaylen Fryberg shot five classmates in the cafeteria at Marysville Pilchuck High School in Washington State, killing two girls and injuring the three others.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-dance.html
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Actually all this emotional hysteria about privacy and overreaching does not apply. The photo was posted on site connected to the school. They had every right in the world to react the way they did to this photo and posting.

If anyone had posted a "joke" photo of planes hitting a building right after 9/11, I'm pretty sure the same people whining about this would have been outraged.

"But defending his decision to suspend the students, Superintendent Richard Gross said: 'It has nothing to do with free speech. Their behavior caused a significant disruption in the school'

'We had our homecoming event on Friday and following that the students were looking at Facebook and, of course, it caused a tumult in the building.'

He added that the photo had been uploaded to an online album titled 'Homecoming 2014', meaning it was directly 'tied' to one of the school's events."

It comes just days after teenager Jaylen Fryberg shot five classmates in the cafeteria at Marysville Pilchuck High School in Washington State, killing two girls and injuring the three others.

Tito Velez and girlfriend Jamie Pereira SUSPENDED after posing with replica guns | Daily Mail Online
Your logic doesn't make sense to me. It was posted on that student's personal facebook page with the comment of Homecoming 2104. That doesn't tie it to the school's site at all.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:53 PM
 
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Actually all this emotional hysteria about privacy and overreaching does not apply. The photo was posted on site connected to the school. They had every right in the world to react the way they did to this photo and posting.

If anyone had posted a "joke" photo of planes hitting a building right after 9/11, I'm pretty sure the same people whining about this would have been outraged.

"But defending his decision to suspend the students, Superintendent Richard Gross said: 'It has nothing to do with free speech. Their behavior caused a significant disruption in the school'

'We had our homecoming event on Friday and following that the students were looking at Facebook and, of course, it caused a tumult in the building.'

He added that the photo had been uploaded to an online album titled 'Homecoming 2014', meaning it was directly 'tied' to one of the school's events."
Who's online album? The schools, or the individuals? Thats a very important information not being provided
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It comes just days after teenager Jaylen Fryberg shot five classmates in the cafeteria at Marysville Pilchuck High School in Washington State, killing two girls and injuring the three others.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2812080/Massachusetts-high-school-students-SUSPENDED-posing-replica-guns-just-hours-homecoming-dance.html
meaningless, a threat is a threat regardless of when it took place, and lack of threat doesnt exist when one doesnt eixst.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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Your logic doesn't make sense to me. It was posted on that student's personal facebook page with the comment of Homecoming 2104. That doesn't tie it to the school's site at all.
Exactly. If it had been a schools facebook page, with a school upload of "Homecoming" that changes the story completely, but the individuals own facebook page makes the school budding into a topic where they have no right to do so.
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