Government Shutdown Ahead? Did Pelosi Succeed? (parties, economy, financial, elect)

[Mr. Mon]

Republicans insert language into budget bill negating Washington DC's marijuana legalization referendum.

The party of freedom and small government strikes again!

[Haakon]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Republicans have a majority and can move anything they want forward. They do not need Democrats.

Why bother with bipartisanship right? Elections have consequences, might makes right, that's the liberal democratic way, right up until it gets to the Senate and Reid blocks everything that lands on his desk.

[Goinback2011]

Can they shut it down until the end of January?

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by petch751

Let the freakin money grubbing spendaholic behemoth government shut down! It's about damn time they learn to control their spending. What part don't you get?

I think there have been 18+/- shutdowns over the past 40 years. The 80's were rough. If memory serves, the shut downs ended up costing more than not shutting down.

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by mrpeatie

Last I checked my taxes are still paying off the last decade's debacle by all the Wall Street geniuses.

Actually our taxes are still paying off FDR's New Deal, & LBJ's Great Society.

It has been awhile but last time I looked, we are on the hook for 104 TRILLION, yes, that is TRILLION with a T, of unfunded liabilities.

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

Republicans are already in the Majority in the House of Representatives and have been since January 3rd of 2011.

Did you seriously believe Nancy Pelosi was still the Speaker of the House, or did you mistakenly think we were talking about the senate ?????

Controlling the majority of Congress means both houses.

[armourereric]

Originally Posted by Haakon

Why bother with bipartisanship right? Elections have consequences, might makes right, that's the liberal democratic way, right up until it gets to the Senate and Reid blocks everything that lands on his desk.

Like President Obama once said in 2009 "I won" and was cheered for it, kinda set the modern standard.

[T-310]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

There are 234 Republicans in the House of Representatives. So who else would be responsible for that shut down ????????

The whip count says they need 70 Democratic votes to pass this bill, that means about 86 republicans are going to vote no.


So who else would be responsible for that shut down ????????

It passed a procedural vote.

All Dems voted against it.

[armory]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

Both times, Republicans tried to pass a bill that they knew would not pass the senate or that they knew no deomcrat would vote for.

They purposefully caused a shut down. Thats why I dont blame Democrats. 3 days ago, this bill would have passed even with those 86 republicans voting no.

Then we heard what was in it and what was attached to it and they lost not only Democratic votes, but many of their own Republican votes.

Thats not something you can blame on both sides.

Thats like blaming the hostage for not cooperating.

This reminds me of how democrats rammed Obamacare down the throats of an unwilling American public.
Will you deny that happening as well as Obama not negotiating with congress before the last "shutdown"?

[tinytrump]

Originally Posted by armory

This reminds me of how democrats rammed Obamacare down the throats of an unwilling American public.
Will you deny that happening as well as Obama not negotiating with congress before the last "shutdown"?

The health care bill was in the open for months -the two leeches this year are the excessive campaign donations and the bank bail out with removal of Dodd n Frank sneaked in- who do the Reps.. love?