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I've never heard a single person say that Mr. Gardiner deserve to die for what he did. But he certainly did everything wrong he could possibly do to create a bad situation for himself.
The police didn't go out looking for a black man to harm. The store owner called the police and complained that Gardiner was selling tax-free cigarettes in front of his store. Since the store-owner was law abiding and had to pay taxes on tobacco products he viewed Mr. Gardiner as unfair competition and rightly so. Mr. Gardiner had no right to do this.
The law is a greedy one and needs to be changed by legal process. Until then police are expected to uphold the laws the public's lawmakers create. That's what they get paid for. Even if they think it's a stupid law.
When they came to arrest him (once again) he responded, "Not today." Where did he get the idea that he could refuse being arrested? Why is he exempt from the laws everyone has to follow?
I have no doubt that the people who have the greatest amount of resentment for the police and want to lessen their collective power are the most lawless among us. Cops have a way of interfering with "taking care of business."
or why if they are going to be spat on or shot and killed
hell the mayor started this bull shi& by calling them racist
then turned NY over to the scumbags
and then 2 murdered in cold blood
and the ones pissing and moaning
call AL SHARPTON if you get mugged
or Erick Holder
or shoot
ask the mugger real nice not to knock you in the head and take your money
I vet they would listen if you just understand them a bit
So - DeBlasio, according to you, murdered two officers in cold blood.
But, according to the poster below - the police did not kill Garner though they had him in a chokehold.
I guess DeBlasio has some kind of magic power whereupon he can command a man that he's never seen to kill his girlfriend and then two policemen.
What tripe.
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Originally Posted by Spaten_Drinker
The police did not kill him. He had a heart attack on the way to the hospital due to his pre-existing health problems.
Indeed. See below.
Somehow these two policeman are not responsible for ANYTHING while DeBlasio is responsible for EVERYTHING bad that happens to all policemen everywhere.
Ok.
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo
The NYC medical examiner disagrees with your unsupported opinion.
I've never heard a single person say that Mr. Gardiner deserve to die for what he did. But he certainly did everything wrong he could possibly do to create a bad situation for himself.
The police didn't go out looking for a black man to harm. The store owner called the police and complained that Gardiner was selling tax-free cigarettes in front of his store. Since the store-owner was law abiding and had to pay taxes on tobacco products he viewed Mr. Gardiner as unfair competition and rightly so. Mr. Gardiner had no right to do this.
The law is a greedy one and needs to be changed by legal process. Until then police are expected to uphold the laws the public's lawmakers create. That's what they get paid for. Even if they think it's a stupid law.
When they came to arrest him (once again) he responded, "Not today." Where did he get the idea that he could refuse being arrested? Why is he exempt from the laws everyone has to follow?
I have no doubt that the people who have the greatest amount of resentment for the police and want to lessen their collective power are the most lawless among us. Cops have a way of interfering with "taking care of business."
Typical police union hyperbole. The problem is that they pull crap like this over every perceived slight. They'd better hope someone doesn't die because of their arrogance, because that may be the final straw that sees the ultra-powerful police unions crushed.
You can't be expected to be paid and treated like professionals while you behave like a bunch of 2-bit longshoreman union thugs from the 1930's. NYPD Cops want it both ways.
Police really aren't paid that much so they don't go into it for the money. And what does unions have to do with this.
I've never heard a single person say that Mr. Gardiner deserve to die for what he did. But he certainly did everything wrong he could possibly do to create a bad situation for himself.
The police didn't go out looking for a black man to harm. The store owner called the police and complained that Gardiner was selling tax-free cigarettes in front of his store. Since the store-owner was law abiding and had to pay taxes on tobacco products he viewed Mr. Gardiner as unfair competition and rightly so. Mr. Gardiner had no right to do this.
The law is a greedy one and needs to be changed by legal process. Until then police are expected to uphold the laws the public's lawmakers create. That's what they get paid for. Even if they think it's a stupid law.
When they came to arrest him (once again) he responded, "Not today." Where did he get the idea that he could refuse being arrested? Why is he exempt from the laws everyone has to follow?
I have no doubt that the people who have the greatest amount of resentment for the police and want to lessen their collective power are the most lawless among us. Cops have a way of interfering with "taking care of business."
You must have missed the earlier threads about his death.
Maybe you should know a little about him... and why he isnt trusted by coppers beyond his outright lack of support for them
Nicholas DiMonda retired NYPD
7:25pm Dec 24
Ten Quick Facts You May Not Know About NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio
Here are ten interesting facts you may not know about New York City’s Communist Democrat Mayor Bill de Blasio, who was elected in 2013 with a whopping 72% of the vote. The leftist mayor is accused of fostering an environment that led to the tragic execution-style racial assassinations of two NYPD officers on Saturday.
Bill de Blasio was born Warren Wilhelm, Jr., on May 8, 1961. He first changed his name to the hyphenated Warren de Blasio-Wilhelm, adding his mother’s maiden name.
In 2002, he dropped the “Warren†and the “Wilhelm,†and changed his name for a second time to what it is currently, Bill de Blasio.
Bill de Blasio was the campaign manager for Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign in 2000.
Bill de Blasio was a fervent supporter of the Marxist Sandinista government in Nicaragua in the 1980′s, a government that was backed by the Communist Soviet Union and Cuba.
At the height of Cold War tension, while still a student at New York University, de Blasio toured the Communist Soviet Union in 1983.
His first job was in 1984 with the NYC Department of Juvenile Justice.
Bill de Blasio received a master’s degree in International and Public Affairs at Columbia University, the same school attended by Barack Obama.
Bill de Blasio ran Democrat New York Congressman Charlie Rangel’s re-election campaign in 1994.
In 1994, Bill de Blasio married a lesbian activist, Chirlane McCray. The newlyweds honeymooned in Fidel Castro’s Communist Cuba.
In 2009, de Blasio’s election campaign to be NYC’s third “Public Advocate†was supported by the pro-Communism, Working Families Party.
Both of de Blasio’s parents were communists, leading historian Ron Radosh to describe him as a “bona fide red diaper baby.â€
Source: Discover the Networks NYC gets what they deserve.
Im glad I dont work for him
Ive never put a citizen at risk for any political BS... but perhaps a wakeup call to the major is necessary.. its a team effort.. and not an extremist effort
The mayor is incompetent, and the police owe him nothing.
He will throw them under the bus, just as he tried to throw the media under the bus when called out for his bad behavior.
Why do people keep electing these feckless leaders? Are elections rigged, or what?
Actually, tactically speaking, the cops are making a smart move. The NY media and hoity-toities and their liberal brats that jumped in with the protesters from the get-go and made this Garner thing a racial issue, when there was no evidence that what went down was racial, will see the city (where they live) go to seed and put pressure on Deblasio. See, they only care about those "other liberals" that live in the other part of NYC at election time. They don't care if crime goes up in the hood as long as their own neighborhood is protected. But Dems like DeBlasio cannot aggravate the rich donors by letting crime run amok in the rich neighborhoods so if I was the police, I'd especially look the other way to small potatoes crime in the wealthy neighborhoods and especially in front of the NY media office building and hangouts. Let those people figuratively step on DeBlasio's neck because they ain't doin' it now.
NBC? Aren't they the same dishonest race-baiting news agency that edited the 911 calls in the Travon Martin case to make it sound like George Zimmerman, security guard, was racially motivated? Do you really want to trust their lies one more time?
The Medical Examiner clearly stated that there was no damage to the windpipe and Mr. Gardiner died of a heart attack. What person who can't breathe is able to say, "I can't breathe" four or five times? Not someone whose air supply is being manually choked off. Rather perhaps someone whose heart isn't pumping enough blood to keep his lungs working properly.
Feel free to dispute the medical examiner's findings.
But please support your opinion with more than emotional verbage.
So arrests and citations plummeted, and the world didn't end. Could that mean that most of those arrests/citations were unnecessary for society to function?
1000's of folks that were saved from being senselessly dragged thru the court system, having their finances depleted and/or being brutally assaulted or killed for the sake of fulfilling a quota.
Just think. . . if the feud started earlier, Eric Garner probably wouldn't have died for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes
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