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The rules on this should mirror Canada's laws. If a US firm that builds a factory or bids a construction job in Canada is required to use Canadian materials, this should. If not, not. Dems are using every sleazy trick they can come up with to poison this project, hurting both Canadian and American jobs and businesses. If we are going to have foreign oil in or crossing this country, I'd much rather it come from this country than Saudi, Iran or Venezuela. But heck, Dems hate Canadians-they aren't liberal ENOUGH.
The rules on this should mirror Canada's laws. If a US firm that builds a factory or bids a construction job in Canada is required to use Canadian materials, this should. If not, not. Dems are using every sleazy trick they can come up with to poison this project, hurting both Canadian and American jobs and businesses. If we are going to have foreign oil in or crossing this country, I'd much rather it come from this country than Saudi, Iran or Venezuela. But heck, Dems hate Canadians-they aren't liberal ENOUGH.
Why should we care about Canadian jobs? And how is it hurting American jobs to demand that a pipeline--one that will transverse America and put the American environment at risk and grab American land from American landowners (to benefit a foreign company)--be at the very least built using American products?
The bottom line is that by rejecting this proposal, the GOP has shown that all their bluster about creating jobs for Americans is just a lot of lip service.
HAHAHAHA, cons just slay me. Whine about the pipeline & how many jobs would be lost w/out it & then outsource jobs for a cheaper product. You seriously can't make this up. Do cons have brains, at all?
read nodpete's post (#7) before you make yourself look foolish.
Why should we care about Canadian jobs? And how is it hurting American jobs to demand that a pipeline--one that will transverse America and put the American environment at risk and grab American land from American landowners (to benefit a foreign company)--be at the very least built using American products?
The bottom line is that by rejecting this proposal, the GOP has shown that all their bluster about creating jobs for Americans is just a lot of lip service.
Driving the price up to the point that the project isn't feasible, or delaying it so long that it no longer is necessary, hurts jobs and businesses in both the US and Canada. And ensures that countries that don't like us very much continue to make massive profits from US citizens.
Driving the price up to the point that the project isn't feasible, or delaying it so long that it no longer is necessary, hurts jobs and businesses in both the US and Canada. And ensures that countries that don't like us very much continue to make massive profits from US citizens.
So it's fine for a foreign company to use America to move their oil, and it's also fine that they outsource all the jobs while doing so because it would be cheaper for them. Seems like all you care about is the Canadian oil company's bottom line. To actually allow Americans to get something of value in return might cost them some profits, and heavens, we can't have that! They might not like us anymore!
Thanks for that clarification. You represent the GOP perfectly.
(And if delaying it would mean that it's no longer necessary, then why are we going ahead with it in the first place?)
The article the OP is referring to was in the Daily KOS. And the reason (If you read the article) that the Reps. voted NO was because of 2 Dem. amendments to the bill requiring that any of the oil shipped through the pipeline NOT BE EXPORTED and since this was not acceptable to the Reps., Al Franken -D added that the pipe MUST be made with American steel. Knowing that the bill wouldn't pass because of the "No export" clause, he added that to make it look like the Rep. were against using American products. So like the Dems to make false statements when things don't go their way. Of course the media sucks it all up and reprints it.
Yep. Both sides do this kind of crap all the time.
Next bill the republicans will tack on something funding school lunches and banning abortion....the dems will vote it down and the reps will crow how democrats won't fund school lunches for the poor. \
It takes a really shallow thinker to follow politics and reach adulthood and not realize that most of the stuff that's proposed anymore is intentionally designed to fail for no other purpose than propaganda and political posturing.
Driving the price up to the point that the project isn't feasible, or delaying it so long that it no longer is necessary, hurts jobs and businesses in both the US and Canada.
How MANY jobs does it theoretically hurt?
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And ensures that countries that don't like us very much continue to make massive profits from US citizens.
I don't even know what this means. It's common knowledge by now that none of the Canadian oil is for the US market anyway. It's all for export. So it's not as if the price of oil in the US would decline if the pipeline was built. You might have noticed that oil has tanked recently -- and there's no pipeline.
Canadian company using eminent domain on US soil for exporting tar sands to Asia.
Most toddlers recognize a bad deal when they see it. Obviously not that bright to get gaga over this hot mess.
Sorry - not in the business of making your day go better either. Capisce?
So, this oil is going to run through a pipeline across the US to a port and directly into an Asian ship?
No.
This oil gets send through a pipe to US refineries, where thousands of Americans will take this raw material and change it to goods where it will then be sold on the open market.
Do you hate having jobs in the US that take raw goods and produce goods?
So, this oil is going to run through a pipeline across the US to a port and directly into an Asian ship?
No.
This oil gets send through a pipe to US refineries, where thousands of Americans will take this raw material and change it to goods where it will then be sold on the open market.
Do you hate having jobs in the US that take raw goods and produce goods?
Doesn't matter. Refineries are already at capacity. They have plenty of work and they won't be building new refineries any time soon (for better or worse, and that's a different debate).
Nice strawman though.
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