Was America a more moral country in 1967 (generation, racism, Somali)

[NY Jew]

Was America a more moral country in 1967

[nvxplorer]

People have morals, not countries.

Be more specific, and I'll try to come up with an answer. Your question is too vague.

And why did you choose 1967?

[urbanlife78]

Morals is a personal thing, there is no such thing as a universal moral code for us to measure morals. So I say morals are equal today to what they were then.

[bluesjuke]

A personal thing that was more universal then than it is today.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by bluesjuke

A personal thing that was more universal then than it is today.

I disagree, who's morals do you judge other people's morals by?

[wehotex]

Originally Posted by NY Jew

Was America a more moral country in 1967

Hate, racism and indifference are all immoral.
America was an even more racist, hateful pigsty back in 1967.

[NJBest]

There's so many things that we're more moral about today than in '67 and more things that we're less moral about.

[kidkaos2]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

I disagree, who's morals do you judge other people's morals by?

So you would agree that we can't say that Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Somalia, etc are immoral societies then? The ethnic cleansing of Germany, the brutal repression of Russia, and the lawless warlords of Somalia are all morally equivalent to democratic societies with laws protecting human rights?

I would say that morals are bred into people by evolution. Human beings as social animals have to function as a society and those humans better able to function with others are the ones who have the most chance of passing their genes down to the next generation. The more surface level morals like whether it is considered polite to say "thank you" are certainly different across different societies and different times in history, but the more fundamental morals about not murdering and stealing I would say are inherent to human nature at this point the same way as dogs are now born with a predisposition to be domesticated and wolves are not. Of course there's a huge gray area in morality, but I would say that some sort of baseline of human morality even though I wouldn't presume to be able to codify precisely where that line is.

[bUU]

There was an inflection point, but it isn't clear necessarily when it was. I think it is clear it was after 1967 and it was before 1980, but when exactly would be impossible to determine. And note that what we're talking about is an inflection point, not a U-turn. The trends in moral behavior surely hadn't started declining by 1967. It's arguable whether the callousness and self-centeredness that pervades so much of America today is such that it actually overwhelms the compassion and consideration for others. While there is no doubt that there is more resistance to moral attitudes and behaviors, and more people making grievous excuses for advocating for immoral egoistic choices that benefit themselves at the expense of those more vulnerable in society, I don't think we can say that we've actually gone through the second inflection point that would be necessary to turn a slower ascent into an actual decline.

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by NY Jew

Was America a more moral country in 1967

nope