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Old 04-01-2015, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Indiana Pizzeria Tells Local News Station They Won

A local Indiana ABC station spoke to a pizzeria Tuesday night who will not serve to same-sex marriages after the Indiana law was passed.
It's a sad little town where people order pizza for their wedding reception.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:38 PM
 
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Here is the text of the Indiana bill:




I am not sure what "profit" or "non-profit" has to do with this law. I don't see it in the text.


The definition of person is irrelevant. It conforms to the Court's current treatment of corporations where rights are concerned.
Actually, per the Court, the decision affects "closely held" corporations such as Hobby Lobby. The Indiana law includes virtually everyone, every company, every organization, every group.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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The gays should be happy.
This is nothing but a right of assembly law.
Unless they want crowds of straights taking over their public domains, they shouldn't complain.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:42 PM
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Location: Florida
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Not at all. The silly game is to assume the worst possible scenario will become the norm.
Protections are not just to guard against transgressions becoming the norm but also to guard against transgressions, period. You may find it acceptable for these types of transgressions to be occasional, but I suggest that that may be because you don't see yourself as someone who may be impacted by the such transgressions (probably because you're not gay). It's a bit like the predominantly male AMA dismissing the concerns of women in the early part of the last century, since, after all, they, as men, wouldn't have to concern themselves with suffering women's maladies.

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Even if you think your rligious freedom has been infringed upon, you will still need to go before a court and present your case, and demonstrate a substantial burden to your religious freedom.
And for some reason you think that a state that produced a legislature with enough morally bereft bigots to pass a bill like this one couldn't produce a judge similarly afflicted? Uh huh.

I'm glad to see that the governor of Arkansas had some sense and won't sign the bill that's reached his desk because it manifests the same corruption as the Indiana bill. Too bad Pence wasn't as sensible.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:42 PM
 
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The game is pretending that in Indianna it is now legal for a business owner to essentially slap up a sign stating "NO GAYS ALLOWED."
There is no "pretending." This law is precisely about singling out homosexuals to discriminate against. Do you honestly think that a business who uses this clever angle to discriminate against are going to also deny service, to those who fornicate, use birth control, wear blended fabrics, eat shell fish, have divorced, have remarried after a divorce, have had a child out of wed lock, etc, because of their "religion?" The answer is no, the law was provoked because of Indiana's new law allowing SSM, specifically targeting homosexuals.

The sad point, is that these so called religious people often don't understand correct interpretation of scripture as well, slanting it to their benefit.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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There is no "pretending." This law is precisely about singling out homosexuals to discriminate against. Do you honestly think that a business who uses this clever angle to discriminate against are going to also deny service, to those who fornicate, use birth control, wear blended fabrics, eat shell fish, have divorced, have remarried after a divorce, have had a child out of wed lock, etc, because of their "religion?" The answer is no, the law was provoked because of Indiana's new law allowing SSM, specifically targeting homosexuals.

The sad point, is that these so called religious people often don't understand correct interpretation of scripture as well, slanting it to their benefit.
It's not the governments place to interpret scripture's.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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There is no "pretending." This law is precisely about singling out homosexuals to discriminate against. Do you honestly think that a business who uses this clever angle to discriminate against are going to also deny service, to those who fornicate, use birth control, wear blended fabrics, eat shell fish, have divorced, have remarried after a divorce, have had a child out of wed lock, etc, because of their "religion?" The answer is no, the law was provoked because of Indiana's new law allowing SSM, specifically targeting homosexuals.

The sad point, is that these so called religious people often don't understand correct interpretation of scripture as well, slanting it to their benefit.
if 100 straights walk in and take over a gay bar, is that what you want to be ok ? Then
the gays can't ask them to leave. how about suit-and-tie Mormons taking over a metro
gay bath house ? is that ok with you ? they can stand around and make everyone feel
comfortable.. mm kay ?
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:49 PM
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if 100 straights walk in and take over a gay bar, is that what you want to be ok ? Then the gays can't ask them to leave.
Uh, that's the reality today, and nothing will change that. I am utterly amazed you didn't realize that.

And there is nothing wrong with it. There is no such thing as gay vodka. It's just vodka. Pay the price and it doesn't matter who you are, the bar should welcome you, treat you as well as any patron.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:51 PM
 
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What obvious birth defects? Don't you know many gays can pass as straight? Also can't straights practice sexual deviancy of their own? If so, it's just like gays, how do you identify them, so you can discriminate against them?
Since gays claim they are born that way, then obviously it must be a birth defect if they like practicing deviant behavior.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:51 PM
 
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if 100 straights walk in and take over a gay bar, is that what you want to be ok ? Then
the gays can't ask them to leave. how about suit-and-tie Mormons taking over a metro
gay bath house ? is that ok with you ? they can stand around and make everyone feel
comfortable.. mm kay ?
Are you serious? Do you even know what you're talking about? Gays can't ask anyone to leave any gay establishment, unless they are acting inappropriately, such as public intoxication.
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