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I'm willing to bet, that a good percentage of Americans would be for businesses saying no to gay weddings. I also believe, the way the media reported on this from the start, was not honest. They framed it as if businesses would have a right to kick customers out for being gay.
I bet if you asked most people, they still believe that. The news media has not cared about truth and informing the public honestly, in a long time. They report on stories in a way to drum up outrage based on the medias own bias. Its exactly what happened here. Someone I spoke to today was under the impression the Indiana law would let businesses say no gays in my shop. And that's the exact thing the media wanted people to think.
Which person in the story bashed or hated gays? The O'Connors said they serve everyone, but would not PARTICIPATE in something against their beliefs. There are tons of activities I would never participate in for tons of different reasons, but that does not mean I hate those activities or the practitioners/participants thereof.
How is delivering a pizza to a party "participating"? There was no suggestion that they deliver pizza during a gay wedding ceremony or participate in a gay wedding ceremony - the owner said they wouldn't deliver pizza to a party afterwards. Are they going to ask everyone the purpose of their order? Are you celebrating a divorce? Are you celebrating the birth of a child out of wedlock?
Which person in the story bashed or hated gays? The O'Connors said they serve everyone, but would not PARTICIPATE in something against their beliefs. There are tons of activities I would never participate in for tons of different reasons, but that does not mean I hate those activities or the practitioners/participants thereof.
I would never "participate" in a political convention, even the Libertarian Party, on the basis that I find political pep rallies a waste of a rational person's time. But I do not hate people that do attend political conventions.
I would never "participate" in a Justin Beiber performance because I find him to be pinnacle of pop music banality, but I do not hate him or anyone else involved with his performances.
I would never "participate" in a gay wedding because a) I am Catholic and it indeed goes against my beliefs and b) because after all this, even if I was an atheist, Satanist or Grand Poobah of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I'd refuse to participate in a gay wedding simply to be contrary to a totalitarian mob who wants to force my associations according their whim. But I don't hate gay people, not even a little. Two of my wife's best friends are a married lesbian couple, and we all get along just fine.
One can oppose or refuse to participate in a thing without hating a thing or those involved with that thing. Only in these occasions where the thugs are out trolling for victims and villains are all things reduced to such binary choises of "either support me fully, or be cast as villain and exiled from the village"
This is about business, not any of those things you mentioned. It doesn't matter how you spin it, when opening a business to the public, you can't discriminate. End of story. No need for elaborate philosophical explanations.
The road in front of a business, the sidewalk, public transportation, fire, police, courts, etc., etc., paid for by taxing all of us. All of us deserve to be accommodated. This should ring true to rightwingers: Gays pay taxes. That's THEIR money. They deserve to be treated equally.
no. they should have said what they said and it should not have been news. they should not have been attacked and they should be open for business today.
the real biggotry is the biggotry of "say what your told" and it aint coming from Memories Pizza. it isnt comeing from those who think like the people at Memories Pizza
So you think that they can say what they want, and everyone else has to not say anything about it?
I'm willing to bet, that a good percentage of Americans would be for businesses saying no to gay weddings. I also believe, the way the media reported on this from the start, was not honest. They framed it as if businesses would have a right to kick customers out for being gay.
I bet if you asked most people, they still believe that. The news media has not cared about truth and informing the public honestly, in a long time. They report on stories in a way to drum up outrage based on the medias own bias. Its exactly what happened here. Someone I spoke to today was under the impression the Indiana law would let businesses say no gays in my shop. And that's the exact thing the media wanted people to think.
Which person in the story bashed or hated gays? The O'Connors said they serve everyone, but would not PARTICIPATE in something against their beliefs. There are tons of activities I would never participate in for tons of different reasons, but that does not mean I hate those activities or the practitioners/participants thereof.
I would never "participate" in a political convention, even the Libertarian Party, on the basis that I find political pep rallies a waste of a rational person's time. But I do not hate people that do attend political conventions.
I would never "participate" in a Justin Beiber performance because I find him to be pinnacle of pop music banality, but I do not hate him or anyone else involved with his performances.
I would never "participate" in a gay wedding because a) I am Catholic and it indeed goes against my beliefs and b) because after all this, even if I was an atheist, Satanist or Grand Poobah of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I'd refuse to participate in a gay wedding simply to be contrary to a totalitarian mob who wants to force my associations according their whim. But I don't hate gay people, not even a little. Two of my wife's best friends are a married lesbian couple, and we all get along just fine.
One can oppose or refuse to participate in a thing without hating a thing or those involved with that thing. Only in these occasions where the thugs are out trolling for victims and villains are all things reduced to such binary choises of "either support me fully, or be cast as villain and exiled from the village"
I would suggest if baking ans selling pizza is against their beliefs then they should find a new line of work.
Of course you have the right to refuse participation in any wedding. But what does that have to do with commercial transactions such as selling cakes and arranging flowers and providing meals?
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