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There is no way to prove what healthcare would have cost without ObamaCare. All you can do is look at the trends and forecast what it "might have been". If you do that, you'll find that we were trending for much higher costs. So while healthcare costs continue to rise, they are rising at a lower rate than they were for many years before ACA kicked in. Based on that stat (which is admittedly only one data point), you would be wrong with your statement. ACA has yielded us more savings than Fracking according to available evidence.
Interesting how you all demand a link to prove contamination, then when you are given one that proves contamination you pick and choose certain things to comment on and attempt to completely dismiss that the unfortunate fact is that water IS being contaminated.
The EPA report proved nothing because it was flawed, it was never released for peer review and abandoned by the EPA with reason.
Originally Posted by Your Article As it turns out, the average family of 4 has only had to face a relatively modest burden from Obamacare over the past four years—a little over $125.
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So if you want to compare apples to apples, current savings to current savings, then you are incorrect. Actually, your own source says that in the past four years it has saved 125 times as much as you stated.
As for future savings or costs:
1. The article can only predict. You can't state the future as fact, and more to the point
2. It ignores what would have happened without ACA. There is NO WAY to prove something that never happened. Heck, for all we know, it could have been even WORSE than I or you are saying, but we can't state any of it as fact. That trend was not allowed to play out.[/quote]
This is from 4/07/2014.
Enjoy...
The average increases are in excess of 11% in the small group market and 12% in the individual market. Some state show increases 10 to 50 times that amount. The analysts conclude that the “increases are largely due to changes under the ACA.”
I'm over not posting links as you suggested. Doesn't this look fun! I am so sure you all would love to live there. I am sure there are many properties for sale!
Bit of advice, if you're going to reference something you better do a little more homework than just clicking the first link you find, especially one that is dated.
The fact we NEED fossil fuels is garbage! PEOPLE NEED to change our wasteful, gluttonous society. We have plenty of technology to get us off a lot of fossil fuels, but the GAS AND OIL COMPANIES won't ALLOW it!
Got a new roll of tin foil I see. Probably made yourself a double layered hat so the reptilian overlords couldn't control your mind anymore. That's why you're so knowledgeable about the evil oil companies stifling technology that will allows cars to travel 500 miles on a galllon of water.
Did you read what you posted? It basically says it was abandoned because of pressures from the Government and the Fracking Companies. I fail to see the validity of that. So am I to presume from your logic then when the well was drilled the chemicals used in fracking were already present and just now becoming a problem? My father drilled wells when I was growing up, wells are tested after drilling to be sure they safe when completed. People have been drinking out of their wells for years, fracking comes in nearby and all the sudden they have BIG changes to their water....and this all coincidence? NOPE NOT BUYING IT!!!!!
Got a new roll of tin foil I see. Probably made yourself a double layered hat so the reptilian overlords couldn't control your mind anymore. That's why you're so knowledgeable about the evil oil companies stifling technology that will allows cars to travel 500 miles on a galllon of water.
It would be hysterical if it wasn't so pathetic.
It must be nice to live in such an ignorant world!
It must be nice to live in such an ignorant world!
From what you've posted I'd have to say you are the worlds foremost expert on living in an ignorant world and proud of it as well.
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