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Old 07-24-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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Native Hawaiian Community... HMMMM....
Yep. Hmmm.
Grassroot Institute Posts Native Hawaiian Roll Online | Grassroot Institute of Hawaii

According to the 2010 U.S. Census, there were 527,077 "Native Hawaiians" residing in the United States; however, Kanaʻiolowalu only has 122,785 folks on its "list," which means that at least 404,292 or 76.7% of the "Native Hawaiian" community is pretty much disenfranchised. Instead of uniting the "Native Hawaiian" community, the "list" appears to be more divisive than anything else.
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/b...c2010br-12.pdf
Kana'iolowalu - a year-long campaign to reunify Native Hawaiians in the self-recognition of our unrelinquished sovereignty
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Old 07-24-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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The they need to setup a payment schedule on buying and paying back what they received most by their own promotion from the invaders. Heck they even voted for it to pass. There are always some who think they rule over other in their group who do not in reality. Usual they are the failures in the system.
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Old 07-24-2015, 03:14 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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The US flag and the state flag are always flown at equal heights, it's been that way forever here in NY and elsewhere.
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh, Kawena, your threads never cease to make me laugh. I'll give you that much.
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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I have a question.... so why then does the US give special treatment to the Native Alaskan's? as you say lock stock and barrel... then why do they do this?
It's a sub-let.
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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The US flag and the state flag are always flown at equal heights, it's been that way forever here in NY and elsewhere.
Not if they're on the same halyard, according to the "Position and Manner of Display" section of the "U.S. Flag Code "(4 U.S.C. § 7).
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7
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Old 07-25-2015, 03:40 AM
 
Location: honolulu
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Yep. Hmmm.
Grassroot Institute Posts Native Hawaiian Roll Online | Grassroot Institute of Hawaii

According to the 2010 U.S. Census, there were 527,077 "Native Hawaiians" residing in the United States; however, Kanaʻiolowalu only has 122,785 folks on its "list," which means that at least 404,292 or 76.7% of the "Native Hawaiian" community is pretty much disenfranchised. Instead of uniting the "Native Hawaiian" community, the "list" appears to be more divisive than anything else.
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/b...c2010br-12.pdf
Kana'iolowalu - a year-long campaign to reunify Native Hawaiians in the self-recognition of our unrelinquished sovereignty
great post.... one might add that the group "Kanaʻiolowalu only has 122,785 folks on its list," they in trun got the names for that list from another organization, Kauinoa... and by doing that is not "pono" I pretty much believe its illegal. Some people who signed on to Kauinoa did not give permission for Kanaʻiolowalu to use their name, Also some of the name they stole to add to the "list" are deceased.
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Old 07-25-2015, 07:59 AM
 
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Well the Shawnee can come back to southern Ohio and reclaim their ancestral home where the Scioto River kisses the Ohio
Build a riverboat hotel casino docked on the Scioto make Kentucky relent on its gambling laws on the Ohio River and have some fun...create jobs make $sum money$ ...
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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great post.... one might add that the group "Kanaʻiolowalu only has 122,785 folks on its list," they in trun got the names for that list from another organization, Kauinoa... and by doing that is not "pono" I pretty much believe its illegal. Some people who signed on to Kauinoa did not give permission for Kanaʻiolowalu to use their name, Also some of the name they stole to add to the "list" are deceased.
According to the folks running Kanaʻiolowalu, over 40,000 Native Hawaiians signed up Kanaʻiolowalu directly and another 87,000 names were transferred from three "OHA-sponsored" lists: Kau Inoa, the Hawaiian Registry, and Operation ʻOhana.
Kanaiolowalu: An Update from the Native Hawaiian Roll Commission

While the transfer of names from Kau Inoa, the Hawaiian Registry, and Operation ʻOhana is not technically "illegal," it is highly unethical and definately not "pono." Moreover, it doesn't exactly bode well for the nature, quality, and legitimacy of the leadership of any Native Hawaiian "self-governing" entity that might arise as a result of the Kanaʻiolowalu list. Fortunately, hidden in the bowels of Kanaʻiolowalu's website is the procedure and form for "opting out."
Removal from the Native Hawaiian Roll Commission

The inclusion of the names of deceased folks is the least of the problems of the Kanaʻiolowalu list. For example, there are many instances in which the name of an individual is included in the Kanaʻiolowalu list, but the names of that individual's full siblings, children, parents and other family members of Native Hawaiian ancestry are not, which has the potential to be more divisive than unifying. Moreover, after all of the deceased folks, duplicate entries, "opt-outs," and "uncertified" names are removed, the size of the "certified" Kanaʻiolowalu list will be reduced to approximately 100,000 names. Thus, the rights of the "silent majority" or over 80% of "Native Hawaiians" that are not on the "certified" Kanaʻiolowalu will be co-opted by a relatively small minority. Ironically, a similar "co-opt the vote" strategy was used by folks in favor of the annexation of Hawaiʻi in 1898 and folks in favor of statehood in 1959.
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Old 07-25-2015, 05:41 PM
 
Location: honolulu
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According to the folks running Kanaʻiolowalu, over 40,000 Native Hawaiians signed up Kanaʻiolowalu directly and another 87,000 names were transferred from three "OHA-sponsored" lists: Kau Inoa, the Hawaiian Registry, and Operation ʻOhana.
Kanaiolowalu: An Update from the Native Hawaiian Roll Commission

While the transfer of names from Kau Inoa, the Hawaiian Registry, and Operation ʻOhana is not technically "illegal," it is highly unethical and definately not "pono." Moreover, it doesn't exactly bode well for the nature, quality, and legitimacy of the leadership of any Native Hawaiian "self-governing" entity that might arise as a result of the Kanaʻiolowalu list. Fortunately, hidden in the bowels of Kanaʻiolowalu's website is the procedure and form for "opting out."
Removal from the Native Hawaiian Roll Commission

The inclusion of the names of deceased folks is the least of the problems of the Kanaʻiolowalu list. For example, there are many instances in which the name of an individual is included in the Kanaʻiolowalu list, but the names of that individual's full siblings, children, parents and other family members of Native Hawaiian ancestry are not, which has the potential to be more divisive than unifying. Moreover, after all of the deceased folks, duplicate entries, "opt-outs," and "uncertified" names are removed, the size of the "certified" Kanaʻiolowalu list will be reduced to approximately 100,000 names. Thus, the rights of the "silent majority" or over 80% of "Native Hawaiians" that are not on the "certified" Kanaʻiolowalu will be co-opted by a relatively small minority. Ironically, a similar "co-opt the vote" strategy was used by folks in favor of the annexation of Hawaiʻi in 1898 and folks in favor of statehood in 1959.

Great post, why is it not in the Hawaii forum?
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