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Old 05-15-2015, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
Only after 20 weeks according to the Republicans, enjoy reality.
What did you expect, a complete reversal of Roe. v Wade? Better question, would you support that reversal?

 
Old 05-15-2015, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Rather than address the issue at the tail end why not focus on preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place, education maybe. The abortion rate is down but we are still have the worst rate of any civilized country. Maybe the GOP should focus on keeping these clinics open in poor areas rather than doing everything in their power to close them.
NO! Sex education is the Devils Work, good grief don't even suggest we educate anyone, you some sort of Commie or what?
 
Old 05-15-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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I really think some of you are misled about why late-term abortions happen and who has them. People like me have them: happily pregnant married women whose pregnancies go terribly awry through no fault of their own. It's terribly sad, but it happens. Let me be very clear about this: late-term abortions are performed for devastating birth defects. Some women choose to see their pregnancy through to its inevitable conclusion, and some women choose to abort. Both are valid choices. Putting a twenty-week limit on pregnancy termination eradicates very few abortions and penalizes those women who are most in need of the option.

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Old 05-15-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Rather than address the issue at the tail end why not focus on preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place, education maybe. The abortion rate is down but we are still have the worst rate of any civilized country. Maybe the GOP should focus on keeping these clinics open in poor areas rather than doing everything in their power to close them.
Although I definitely agree with the point you are making, this thread is focusing on abortions past 20 weeks of pregnancy. The huge majority of abortions are performed MUCH earlier than 20 weeks into the pregnancy.
 
Old 05-15-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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yes, that's true, but it's also true that that once a poor child is born it no longer matters to most conservatives
No, most conservatives expect the baby mama and daddy to take care of the child. If that is not possible, conservatives are the biggest advocates of and financial donors to charities that take care of those children. You are just butt hurt because the only thing liberals do is confiscate money and redistribute it and call that "caring".
 
Old 05-15-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Rather than address the issue at the tail end why not focus on preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place, education maybe. The abortion rate is down but we are still have the worst rate of any civilized country. Maybe the GOP should focus on keeping these clinics open in poor areas rather than doing everything in their power to close them.
Perhaps they shouldn't block birth control and sex education efforts as well. It seems they have to go all in on this simply because that same voting block is very sensitive about their SSI and Medicare, and if you're going to cut those programs to pander to the ulta wealthy block you're going to have to do something radical with abortion to appeal to the people that would be hurt by the dismantling of their pet programs.

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Old 05-15-2015, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Gone
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What did you expect, a complete reversal of Roe. v Wade? Better question, would you support that reversal?
Nope other than the BS counseling and here in Texas the war on PP, I am perfectly fine with the 20 week limit on abortions on demand. Know why, it is because that is when the brain actually is formed and that is when a Fetus starts transforming into a baby/person in most cases. I unlike some let the actual science define when it is become people, before that time it only has the possibility of becoming a person but there is no where for the Person to reside, unless you can show me that we as People reside in another organ than the brain.
 
Old 05-15-2015, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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Nope other than the BS counseling and here in Texas the war on PP, I am perfectly fine with the 20 week limit on abortions on demand. Know why, it is because that is when the brain actually is formed and that is when a Fetus starts transforming into a baby/person in most cases. I unlike some let the actual science define when it is become people, before that time it only has the possibility of becoming a person but there is no where for the Person to reside, unless you can show me that we as People reside in another organ than the brain.
I forgot, you lefties have no heart, otherwise you wouldn't be so blasé about killing babies.
 
Old 05-15-2015, 12:44 PM
 
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And you have facts to prove that? No? I didn't think so.
No, I can not prove a negative. No, I can not show you were something that never happens never happens. You are asking me to prove that you don't fart jelly beans.

There is NEVER a situation where the fetus must be killed to save the life on the mother in the last trimester.
 
Old 05-15-2015, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Gone
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I forgot, you lefties have no heart, otherwise you wouldn't be so blasé about killing babies.
Fetuses, do get it right or simply stop pretending you know anything about the topic. Oh, seems the GOP has no problem with killing Fetuses also, they must use science also. You should try it some time, it would save you a lot of stress.
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