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Old 05-18-2015, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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We shouldn't be giving college education to anyone nor should we pay "giant agra" a dime or subsidize any business.

Saying, "Hey, we waste money here" isn't going to want me to waste it in other areas.

College is an INVESTMENT. It's up to the individual adult to make that investment.
so says you..I think education is an investment in our Nations future
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Old 05-18-2015, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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“There aint no such thing as a free lunch” (TANSTAAFL)

Using government to take from one to give to another is an abuse of power.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:00 PM
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Location: Florida
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There is no "cheating". All the tax laws are LAWS, passed by Congress.
While true, it is a distinction without a difference. The exploitation of excessive financial power fostering skyrocketing economic injustice in society has been and continues to be a grievous offense committed by the right wing on behalf of the rich and large corporate interests. While right wingers continue to dodge moral repudiation of the corruption they advocate, that doesn't ameliorate the wrong they commit by supporting such indefensible egoistic avarice.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:00 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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so says you..I think education is an investment in our Nations future
Did the teachers unions tell you that?

Seems every time someone says education is investing in the nations future they are asking for more of my hard earned dollars.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: PA
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Lets see,
Sanders a socialist, Self proclaimed (look it up) suggests college should be free. Just like public schools which is not free (but idiots who come in this forum and vote think it is) its from local school and property taxes.

Public schools run by government (results = broke, poor education, teacher unions, and democrat policies) When people want accountablity to this poor display of results in teaching american children do you know what we get. Liberal responses, and teacher unions demanding more money for no results and failing schools.

Now now move this thinking on a federal level of common core, no child left behind and the brainwashing of children continues on the socialist agenda.

These idiots in washington should take a college class on balanced budgets in accounting, what and or where they should be spending our money and follow the constitution. I see no authority in the constitution to provide education on a FEDERAL level.

States if they want to tax everyone to death be my guest, but I suspect they arent willing to risk that.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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While true, it is a distinction without a difference. The exploitation of excessive financial power fostering skyrocketing economic injustice in society has been and continues to be a grievous offense committed by the right wing on behalf of the rich and large corporate interests. While right wingers continue to dodge moral repudiation of the corruption they advocate, that doesn't ameliorate the wrong they commit by supporting such indefensible egoistic avarice.
Democrats actually get the majority of donations from business, not republicans.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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While true, it is a distinction without a difference. The exploitation of excessive financial power fostering skyrocketing economic injustice in society has been and continues to be a grievous offense committed by the right wing on behalf of the rich and large corporate interests. While right wingers continue to dodge moral repudiation of the corruption they advocate, that doesn't ameliorate the wrong they commit by supporting such indefensible egoistic avarice.
I won't deny it's been exploited yet Congress has done NOTHING to change the law.
And these laws go back decades so both Dems and Repubs had the chance to change them but they didn't.

The anger is misdirected at corporations. They don't make the law,
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:04 PM
 
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As usual the real problem isn't addressed. The cost of a college education has far and away surpassed the rate of inflation (I'll grant the argument that the government lies about what this truly is) or the cost of living.

There is a real problem here. In large part this is because of the governments involvement. Anything the government subsidizes ends up costing more and more. Nobody should get stuck with 6 figure debts just to get an education. That should be addressed but the idea that an education can ever be "free" is only argued dishonestly. There is no such thing.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Austin Texas
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Seventy percent attend...only 30% are graduated. Think about that for a while.
I have thought about it. I think perhaps 20-30% shouldn't go to college.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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While true, it is a distinction without a difference. The exploitation of excessive financial power fostering skyrocketing economic injustice in society has been and continues to be a grievous offense committed by the right wing on behalf of the rich and large corporate interests. While right wingers continue to dodge moral repudiation of the corruption they advocate, that doesn't ameliorate the wrong they commit by supporting such indefensible egoistic avarice.
That's so cute.


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