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Old 05-18-2015, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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Did the teachers unions tell you that?

Seems every time someone says education is investing in the nations future they are asking for more of my hard earned dollars.
Looking at today's college graduates, I'd say it was a very poor investment. I had a better education far advanced of today's college graduate when I was in the 8th grade for the most part and in all parts when I graduated from High School.

I was able to step up, create my own Sole Enterprises (actually 3 of them) and set up my own Construction Corporation and run it completely with the exception of the job sites for which my husband was in full charge. We were extremely successful and learned that today's college graduate Engineers, Architects and many others in different areas had to be constantly corrected because they had never learned anything worth paying for in those higher-education schools. I will stop there, because it would take a book to expose the futility of education without true experience which comes from starting at the bottom and working up out in the real world.
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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This is being discussed in a couple other threads. Why do you feel you are special and need your own?
I was going to say the same thing and I thought I saw the OP's name in them. But i wouldn't bet more than a nickel on it.
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:06 PM
 
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Socialism has been tried and failed, not for lack of trying at all. Why are we even talking about it?
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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well im not really worried about kids and/or snowflakes but as an individual living some place on planet earth, I am NOT INTERESTED in the government directing ME toward some particular form of education or limitation.

I am dyslexic. my parents were told to let me drop out of HS in 8th grade and get a trade.

they didn't accept what they were told by the "experts". ive done significantly better than that. I guess I would have been one of those "snowflakes" had we had a system where government directed people toward education opportunities.
There are always exceptions to the rule. As for the snowflake comment that directed at you though by what your parents did, it would possibly be taken that way. I know in some cases I would have been seen that way. Sadly with the college push, the trades are now looked upon as being uneducated mouth breathers which I think the problem is and why your parents fought for you.
The snowflake is an evolution of the Fred Rogers "you are special"line of thought.
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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Actually their social spending was about average for the EU. Their problem came about because tax avoidance is a national sport there. And they play it well.
The same thing will happen here. It does to an extent now but there comes a time when people say enough and start playing their own games.
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:57 PM
 
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I'll be sending my kids more than likely to Germany for college..its completely free over 900 programs in English. Unless they can get some kind of scholarship for school here that is. I personally prefer they go to Europe. I feel no love or attachment to the US and never have....much rather live where my people came from and Germany is part of that....Live in a society that CARES about its citizens.
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Old 05-18-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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I'll be sending my kids more than likely to Germany for college..its completely free over 900 programs in English. Unless they can get some kind of scholarship for school here that is. I personally prefer they go to Europe. I feel no love or attachment to the US and never have....much rather live where my people came from and Germany is part of that....Live in a society that CARES about its citizens.
You're in for a nasty shock. Delusional isn't close.
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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I'm still unclear on what 'corporate welfare' is.

I just looked up the effective corporate tax rates by country and, as you'd guess, the US is among the top 6. Effective tax rate here is defined as all taxes divided by pre tax income.

The effective rate in Germany is roughly the same.
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Old 05-18-2015, 07:54 PM
 
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You're in for a nasty shock. Delusional isn't close.
Sure I am. I do my research. Which is why I know about this already. Try doing your own.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:07 PM
 
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Does this mean all student loan debt will be forgiven?
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